Purifier with Life Mystery - multiple Channel Energy

[Casper Gronemann]

Hi. One of my players is an Aasimar Oracle with the Purifier Archetype. This Archetype grants him the ability to use Channel Energy a number of times per day equal to 1 + Charisma modifier to harm evil outsiders.

Simultaneously, he has picked up the Life Mystery to gain the Channel revelation, which grants him the regular Channel Energy a Cleric has at 1 + Charisma modifier per day.

Are these abilities seperate (1 + cha mod/day channel to harm evil outsiders, 1 + cha mod/day channel to heal living or damage unliving) or are they one (1 + cha mod/day channel to harm evil outsiders, heal living or damage unliving)?

I know that usually Channel is not seperate, so I imagine the latter is true. Correct?

[Dazz]

I would imagine these are counted separately. Because the archetype gives channeling for one specific purpose, while the other is general energy channeling, my interpretation is that the "harm evil outsiders" channeling stays that way no matter what.

[Casper Gronemann]

Dazz wrote:

I would imagine these are counted separately. Because the archetype gives channeling for one specific purpose, while the other is general energy channeling, my interpretation is that the "harm evil outsiders" channeling stays that way no matter what.

My concern is that you could also view Sacred Scourge as simply giving the Alignment Channel feat, and the some Channel to go with it. Once you get another Channel, they don't stack, but you can still use your Channel to harm outsiders.

The rule that Channels are seperate also clears up any confusion concerning which Channel feats a character has apply to which Channel Energy abilities.

Keeping them seperate seems to line up with other rulings I've read. But yes, this does seem a bit like a special case.

[james maissen]

Casper Gronemann wrote:

Are these abilities seperate

Yes.

-James

[Shalafi2412]

Yes, they are seperate abilities.

[Casper Gronemann]

@James and Shalafi: Thanks guys, but ehm, not to be obnoxius, but what's your source? Has this been stated anywhere or?

[james maissen]

Casper Gronemann wrote:

@James and Shalafi: Thanks guys, but ehm, not to be obnoxius, but what's your source? Has this been stated anywhere or?

You've gained two separate abilities.

The general rule is that channeling is separate after all. A Paladin4/Cleric1 does not get 3d6 channel.

FAQ wrote:

If I have the channel energy ability from more than one class, do they stack?

No—unless an ability specifically says it stacks with similar abilities (such as an assassin's sneak attack), or adds in some way based on the character's total class levels (such as improved uncanny dodge), the abilities don't stack and you have to use them separately. Therefore, cleric channeling doesn't stack with paladin channeling, necromancer channeling, oracle of life channeling, and so on.

-James

[Casper Gronemann]

I have read the FAQ wrong all this time! Gosh.

Thanks, man.