Summoner eidolon attacks questions


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Liberty's Edge

I have been putting together a new summoner for PFS using Hero Labs. And I'm wondering if it is figuring the attacks correctly.

Case 1: Creature with limbs and pincers. It lists the two attacks as str + bab. Even though these are secondary attacks I am assuming there is no -5 due to these being the only attacks.

Case 2: Creature with limbs and pincers plus a bite. It lists the two pincer attacks as str + bab -5 (as a secondary attack) plus a bite at str + bab.

This makes sence to me (especially know that I've typed it out). Just making sure everything is lining up right.


Martin Sheaffer wrote:
Case 1: Creature with limbs and pincers. It lists the two attacks as str + bab. Even though these are secondary attacks I am assuming there is no -5 due to these being the only attacks.

Natural Attacks: "If a creature has only one type of attack, but has multiple attacks per round, that attack is treated as a primary attack, regardless of its type."

Martin Sheaffer wrote:
Case 2: Creature with limbs and pincers plus a bite. It lists the two pincer attacks as str + bab -5 (as a secondary attack) plus a bite at str + bab.

Natural Attacks: "Secondary attacks are made using the creature's base attack bonus –5 and add only 1/2 the creature's Strength bonus on damage rolls."

When the Pincers function as secondary attacks, you should only be getting 1/2 strength bonus to damage rolls, not full strength.

Liberty's Edge

Thanks Grick, I thought there was something about the strength but I don't have it in front of me right now so I didn't add it. Double thanks for the link it will help greatly (and maybe remind me to look for that next time). :)

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