Questions About Drawing a Weapon

[superdude097]

PRD wrote:

Drawing a weapon so that you can use it in combat, or putting it away so that you have a free hand, requires a move action. This action also applies to weapon-like objects carried in easy reach, such as wands. If your weapon or weapon-like object is stored in a pack or otherwise out of easy reach, treat this action as retrieving a stored item.

If you have a base attack bonus of +1 or higher, you may draw a weapon as a free action combined with a regular move. If you have the Two-Weapon Fighting feat, you can draw two light or one-handed weapons in the time it would normally take you to draw one.

I have several questions about the wording here:

1: If a "weapon-like object" (say a wand) is "carried in easy reach" and a character has a BAB of +1 or higher, can the character "draw" it in conjunction with a regular move?

1a: Could the character draw 2 wands (one in each hand) if he had TWF?

2: Can a character with +1 BAB sheathe one weapon while simultaneously drawing another during the same move? What if he's using a light shield? What if he's using a heavy shield? What if he's using TWF to sheathe 2 and draw 2 simultaneously (no shield)?

3: Is a 5-foot-step considered a "regular move" for the purposes of drawing a weapon while having a +1 BAB?

3a: Is the movement during a Spring Attack/Shot on the Run considered a "regular move" for the purposes of drawing a weapon while having a +1 BAB?

Thanks ahead of time for your responses!

Bonus Question: Since "Sheathe a weapon" is listed (separately from "Draw a weapon") as a move action that provokes an AoO, would sheathing a weapon during a "regular move" draw an AoO? This could be important if the attacker has Combat Reflexes (or if it's concluded that a 5-foot-step is considered a "regular move").

[SlimGauge]

1. No. A wand may be a weapon-like object, but it is not a weapon.
1a. No. Wands are not light or one-handed weapons.

2. A "regular move" is insufficiently defined. I take it as "any of the actions listed under the 'move action' heading in table 8-2". Sheathing a weapon is such a move action. As such, you could sheath one weapon and draw another (or the same one again) in a single move action (provided you have a +1 or higher BAB). However, TWF does NOT allow you to sheath two weapons in the same amount of time it takes to sheath one (only to DRAW two weapons in that time), so that would take two move actions.

3. Again, a "regular move" is insufficiently defined. I take it as "any of the actions listed under the 'move action' heading in table 8-2". A five-foot step is not a 'regular move'. It may be movement in that you begin in one square and end in another, but it's certainly not 'regular'.

3a. No, if my interpretation of "regular move" is correct.

Bonus: Sheathing a weapon is not listed as something that can be accomplished during a regular move, it is a move action unto itself.

Probably ninja'd lots, as I took a while researching.

EDIT: Quickdraw doesn't work with wands; see this post by JJ

[Nefreet]

Just wanted to toss the text of Quick Draw into the mix...

Quick Draw feat wrote:

Quick Draw (Combat)

You can draw weapons faster than most.
Prerequisite: Base attack bonus +1.
Benefit: You can draw a weapon as a free action instead of as a move action. You can draw a hidden weapon (see the Sleight of Hand skill) as a move action.
A character who has selected this feat may throw weapons at his full normal rate of attacks (much like a character with a bow).
Alchemical items, potions, scrolls, and wands cannot be drawn quickly using this feat.
Normal: Without this feat, you may draw a weapon as a move action, or (if your base attack bonus is +1 or higher) as a free action as part of movement. Without this feat, you can draw a hidden weapon as a standard action.

Now, back to the OP:

question 1 wrote:

1: If a "weapon-like object" (say a wand) is "carried in easy reach" and a character has a BAB of +1 or higher, can the character "draw" it in conjunction with a regular move?

Notice that in your original quote, sentence #1, that drawing a weapon includes, as written in sentence #2, weapon-like objects, such as wands.

So, I'd say the answer would be yes, but you'd have to state ahead of time that such wand was "carried in easy reach".

qustion 1a wrote:

1a: Could the character draw 2 wands (one in each hand) if he had TWF?

Depends on if wands are considered light weapons. EDIT: I'd have to argue yes, since you can apply feats like Weapon Finesse to wands.

question 2 wrote:

2: Can a character with +1 BAB sheathe one weapon while simultaneously drawing another during the same move?

No. Move action to sheathe, free action to draw during movement.

question 2a wrote:

What if he's using a light shield? What if he's using a heavy shield?

Page 153 in the CRB writes that donning or removing any shield is a move action.

question 3 wrote:

3: Is a 5-foot-step considered a "regular move" for the purposes of drawing a weapon while having a +1 BAB?

No. A 5 foot step is not an action.

[Nefreet]

SlimGauge wrote:

EDIT: Quickdraw doesn't work with wands; see this post by JJ

Since it's written in the feat itself that Quick Draw does not work with wands, I wonder why he had to actually address it.

[superdude097]

Thanks for the response! I apparently can't read and was completely not realizing that the +1 BAB part only pertained to DRAWING a weapon.

Your answers make sense, and I agree that "regular move" should be better defined. An unofficial definition of "anything listed under 'Move Actions'" will have to suffice, with the exception explicitly stated in the description of "Charge" (emphasis mine):

PRD wrote:

Charging is a special full-round action that allows you to move up to twice your speed and attack during the action. Charging, however, carries tight restrictions on how you can move.

Movement During a Charge: You must move before your attack, not after. You must move at least 10 feet (2 squares) and may move up to double your speed directly toward the designated opponent. If you move a distance equal to your speed or less, you can also draw a weapon during a charge attack if your base attack bonus is at least +1.

EDIT: Please forgive all this editing and re-editing; I've yet to get to sleep.

[superdude097]

Nefreet wrote:

question 2a wrote:

What if he's using a light shield? What if he's using a heavy shield?

Page 153 in the CRB writes that donning or removing any shield is a move action.

I was including that thinking about how many free hands a character would have (and also under the false impression that a character with +1 BAB could SHEATHE a weapon as a free action as part of a regular move)