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When the bard stops his Bardic Performance, and the "Lingering Performance" feats steps in, does the Bard "looses/uses" additional rounds for his bardic performance per day?
I.E. If the Bard Inspires Courage in round #1, and does something else in round #2 and #3, will this cost him 3 rounds OR will Inspire Courage cost him 1 round for his rounds/day?
My group is 'split' about this... Has any clarification of this feat been posted somewhere!?
thanks!
RiTz21
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Maintaining a bardic performance from round to round is a free action.
If the feat "keeps it going" for two rounds after you stop, but costs you rounds of the ability to do so, then the feat is 100% grade A pointless and a waste of page space- because the feat would do nothing that you can't already do.. maintain the ability.
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The feat does not say that it costs extra performances, and would keep the music going even if you were to die. As such I would think that it basically gives you "free" rounds at the end of a performance.
Ok so when the performance is 'lingering', it is at no 'cost' to the Bard - thanks!
RiTz21
Has there been an update/clarification regarding this feat?
Consider this ability of the Battle Herald:
Persistent Commands (Ex): At 8th level, a battle herald may allow her inspiring commands to persist even if she is incapacitated and unable to maintain them. If the player chooses, the effects of the battle herald's inspiring commands persist for a number of rounds equal to her Charisma bonus (these count toward her number of rounds per day limit). This ability does not apply if the battle herald intentionally stops maintaining an inspiring command—only if she is dazed, held, stunned, killed, and so on, and is unable to maintain them. If the battle herald recovers from incapacity while an inspiring command is ongoing, she may resume maintaining it as a free action.
This is similar to Lingering Performance, and in this case, they clearly specify that these rounds DO count toward the daily limit... Which makes me wonder if LP would behave in the same manner as well...
The Only Sheet:
No, because like Selgard pointed out, then the feat would be almost entirely useless…
Bards can only have one performance going at a time so the only circumstance that the feat would be useful at all if interpreted that way is if the bard is unable to use a free action to continue the song, but is not paralyzed, stunned, unconscious, or dead (all of which ends the song immediately). It might be possible for that situation to come up, but I can’t think how. It certainly is not common enough to build a feat around.
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Here is the text for the feat from the PRD:
Lingering Performance
The effects of your bardic performance carry on, even after you have stopped performing.
Prerequisite: Bardic performance class feature.
Benefit: The bonuses and penalties from your bardic performance continue for 2 rounds after you cease performing. Any other requirement, such as range or specific conditions, must still be met for the effect to continue. If you begin a new bardic performance during this time, the effects of the previous performance immediately cease.
Nothing states that it continues to eat up rounds of usage, just that the performance continues to have effect (unless you start another performance, no chant-twisting for you.. :P )
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combining this feat with the songs from the sound striker archetype, do those songs continue after you stop performing? in essence giving you 2 free rounds of damage?
what about using inspire courage, stopping and using the damage song? do I get the bonuses to attack for those attacks?
From my last post in this necro'd thread :)
If you begin a new bardic performance during this time, the effects of the previous performance immediately cease.
So, once you start using the damage song, effects of the inspire courage stop. From what I read, you would not get the inspire courage bonuses.
Yes, but would you continue to have 2 new rounds of damage, thus leaving the Bard to do other things?
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Yes, but would you continue to have 2 new rounds of damage, thus leaving the Bard to do other things?
It does not say that the performance ends, but the effects of the performance end immediately.
So the answer is no, you would not get your 2 more rounds of damage. At least if you stop the damage performance and start an inspire courage. If you did not want to start any other performance, and had lingering performance, I can see nothing that would stop wordstrike or weird words from doing 2 more rounds of damage.
Per Lingering Performance: "Any other requirement, such as range or specific conditions, must still be met for the effect to continue."
Which means that limits on rounds are still in effect when it lingers. The feat is designed to carry on bonuses (barring any other requirements, like rounds available) after you would normally cease your performance.