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Since a number of you seem to have ignored my first warning to stop the personal sniping, I'll repeat it.
In response to Femen having a protest in a Mosque in Sweden, BNW made the comment that "Every religion is telling you to do something. If you disagree then you simply don't do it. I don't think Sweden of all places is in any danger of instituting sharia law or using the power of the state to enforce their religion".
Now to be clear, Sharia Law in Sweden was actually a comment brouht up by BNW. I hadn't raised it, nor suggested it, nor commented anything about it. Not one jot.
HOWEVER, as this was a conversation about what IS happening in Sweden, and with Femen, and why they might feel the way they do I thought it pertinent to point out to BNW that there IS a heated political climate in that country, and this is important in framing a context around Femen and why they might be behaving like that.
Notice how this is a conversation about Femen, and political climates? Notice how I'm not actually saying a word about Sharia? Not one. Only BNW has raised this.
So my reply was:
ME - "Might want to have a look at the political climate in Sweden"
And wow didn't people freak out about how rude that comment apparently was, not only did a few of you get all upset and say it was dismissive, but I event had BNW come and IM me over it.
Because there seems to be some strange paradox whereby you guys can operate PC's but are unable to utilise Google and take a minute to make your own independent inquiries into a matter, I very kindly took the trouble of googling at least the most basic search terms for BNW, which I found rather generous - I didn't say at any poitn I agreed with ANY of the links, and indeed clarified that this was illustrating the point that there was indeed a 'heated political climate in Sweden' - nothing about Sharia, thats BNW's strawman.
By the way, Sissyl has pretty much confirmed the 'heated political climate' as well, so yeah point made.
And then from there we get down to this.
I hope this has spelt it out in really really simple terms for you, because if it has to...
I get what you're trying to say Shifty. I do, there are heated discussions going on in Sweden.
Your earlier post though, didn't say that. You didn't quote BNW's entire post, you clipped a portion of it. You then implied that it was wrong.
If you had worded your response differently, your intention would have been MUCH clearer earlier on. As it stands, your posts reads to other people (who aren't inside your brain) like you're claiming Sweden is in danger of imposing sharia law. After your lengthier (and still quite cumbersome) I'm starting to grasp that you probably don't think that, though your wording could still stand to use a LOT more clarity.
You're not afraid (as in you think it's about to happen imminently) of Sweden falling under the rule of an Islamic caliphate... are you?
Also, here in America, there are racists who like to imply that Barack Obama is secretly a Muslim. It's not a guarantee of racism, but it's fairly indicative. Any news source that does make that claim is going to be pretty suspect, and your LMGTFY link led straight to it. I'm not saying you're a racist, but rather you might want to check your own links when claiming it leads to reliable sources. A racist website is going to put the worst spin possible on stories involving racial/ethnic relations.
Oh IT, I have already covered this in full a couple of posts back, the very post you have just cited, no change from that answer. If you are still asking the question in earnest then there is nothing I can do to help you further here, its been explained in the simplest possible terms already.
I was mostly joking.
But do you understand how your earlier post (where you quoted BNW talking about sharia law) could be taken the way people took it?
I'm not attacking you. I'm merely suggesting, when people misunderstand your posts, you could stand to post in a much clearer fashion, which would end things MUCH faster.
This is purely friendly advice. I understand people were flaming each other earlier, but try reading my post in a non-confrontational way. I know it's hard, this is the internet and we're all out to get each other.
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I would not say the political climate is heated. We are Swedes. We don't fight publicly much. It is actively discouraged. Nevertheless, there is a dissatisfaction with our immigration policies, for various reasons, and when any of that reaches the public arena, the establishment (ALL or old political parties) start screaming racist. This led to a xenophobic party getting into the parliament last election, with seven percent of the votes or so. Turns out three percent of swedish muslims sympathize with them too.
Except anyone who asked was very quickly given very precise and exact clarifications, publicly, and yet we had the usual suspects continue to assert to the contrary - which is very different to them misunderstanding. Once it has been clarified, there is little rationale for them to persist with their story unless they are being deliberately dishonest.
Funnily enough it seems the usual grudge to bear crew was hard at work, I especially appreciated the pithy IM approach.
I am terribly sorry that I missed all of the sniping. In the future, please forego sniping between the hours of 6pm and 2am, American East Coast Time.
Thank you for your kind consideration in this matter.
Soz bro.
I'm just letting you know, your clarifications aren't that clear. Even now, you haven't actually said "no, that wasn't my claim." You dance around it, imply it a lot, arrange all this evidence in weird patterns, but I completely missed where you just said "no".
You also mixed in a lot of finger pointing right back, when again, a simple "no, that isn't what I meant," would have gone a long ways.
Sometimes simple answers are better than complex ones. I've started trying to mix simple, very direct posts in with my wordier ones. Often times people read the wordier ones, but they fixate on a single sentence, take it out of context and go on and on about how that one sentence is wrong, even though I didn't say one sentence, I said lots of them.
It happens to me too, which is why I've started trying to ask simple clarifying questions. People don't seem to like answering them much though.
Again, all of this is not an attack. Rather commiserating about the follies of message board communication.
North Carolina: No Abortion and No Sharia
It's like they're reading this thread!
North Carolina: No Abortion and No Sharia
It's like they're reading this thread!
Doodlebug, no one is reading this thread but you, me, and the NSA.
But yeah that bill is pretty shady.
I was reading a little about that.
Was also checking out some speculation about Wendy Davis running for governor of Texas. Her name recognition jumped by a lot, but it's fairly evenly split on the approval/disapproval of her filibuster. She polls better against Perry than other people.
Also Perry recently jumped something like 12 points against the generic "not Rick Perry", whom he had polling behind recently. He may be in for an expensive primary.
North Carolina: No Abortion and No Sharia
It's like they're reading this thread!
Doodlebug, no one is reading this thread but you, me, and the NSA.
But yeah that bill is pretty shady.
Wait, so the NSA runs the North Carolina legislature?
Wait... am I the NSA?
You also mixed in a lot of finger pointing right back, when again, a simple "no, that isn't what I meant," would have gone a long ways.
But that WAS done. I explicitly, unequivocally, unmistakeably said NO.
Apparently some people have trouble with 'no', they seem to think it means 'yes'.Yet even with that undeniable statement of No, they still kept going.
I think we should now have a flamewar about Comrade Meatrace implying that Comrade Irontruth is an agent of the NSA!
But, alas, I have to go to work...
I think we should now have a flamewar about Comrade Meatrace implying that Comrade Irontruth is an agent of the NSA!
But, alas, I have to go to work...
Just keep talking while at work as if I were listening. When someone asks who you're talking to, explain to them its your friend from the NSA who likes to masquerade as the god of iron.
It's like they're reading this thread!
Now if only they'd take its advice.
BTW, what a horrible bit of lawmaking.
I think we should now have a flamewar about Comrade Meatrace implying that Comrade Irontruth is an agent of the NSA!
But, alas, I have to go to work...
Holy balls you work early.
It's like they're reading this thread!Now if only they'd take its advice.
BTW, what a horrible bit of lawmaking.
It is, but it's also par for the course in American politics.
BTW, what a horrible bit of lawmaking.It is, but it's also par for the course in American politics.
There seems to be a trend of it being from a smaller range of geographical locations though. Or is it just that some areas take their religion so serious it borders on a bloodsport?
Religion is not a bloodsport. It is THE bloodsport. Always has been. The good thing nowadays is that it is getting clearer to people in more and more areas of the world what a destructive force religion is.
I wonder if North Carolina is also one of those states that encourages abstinence in place of sex education in it's schools?
Pretty sure that is a yes.
Nina was quite the diva. I've read that at one point in her career, her rider included young black studs to service her.Let's all be honest, who here wouldn't want young black studs to service them if they had the power to make it happen? I mean sure I'd prefer young white women instead, but in today's age of PC that would be a nasty can of worms to add to a rider. I mean if it were black studs or nothing? With all the drugs, alcohol and green M&Ms it would be wise to have a back up plan should the roadies fail to find any groupies to bring back stage.
as a black man, I would like to volunteer my services as a stud. ...
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Um, dude...
Did you read even the headlines or look into who or what those people and groups are?
It's like saying that African Americans are rising up and about to seize power and slaughter white folk because KKK.org says so.
They know. I don't know how they know they just know! Cancel operation starfish! Move on with backup operation mollusk!
Religion is not a bloodsport. It is THE bloodsport. Always has been. The good thing nowadays is that it is getting clearer to people in more and more areas of the world what a destructive force religion is.
interesting.
as a black man, I would like to volunteer my services as a stud. ...
To Nina or to the Goblin?
I wonder if North Carolina is also one of those states that encourages abstinence in place of sex education in it's schools?
I don't know about that, but North Carolina was still forcibly sterilizing its poor, black and "feebleminded" women until the 1970s.
This unpleasant fact was brought to you by the Commonwealth Party of Galt (M-L).
Vive le Galt!
as a black man, I would like to volunteer my services as a stud. ...To Nina or to the Goblin?
OHDFA!
One brother to another...watch out for Nina.
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North Carolina: No Abortion and No Sharia
It's like they're reading this thread!
Doodlebug, no one is reading this thread but you, me, and the NSA.
But yeah that bill is pretty shady.
Wait, so the NSA runs the North Carolina legislature?
Wait... am I the NSA?
Agent irontruth is close to experiencing total recall. Send in a retrieval team and prepare room 8 for reeducation.
Edit: Yep: here it is
The most shocking thing was that it went on for so long after WWII
Huh, I would've guessed it died out quickly after WWII, but California was still doing it in the '60s says wikipedia.
Learn something new every day on Paizo.com!!!
Agent irontruth is close to experiencing total recall. Send in a retrieval team and prepare room 8 for reeducation.
I knew there was something weird about IT...
I think I'd prefer to be on the Nina Simone tour bus then the Madonna bus myself. You know, if I were a black stud.
Well, to be honest, we Don Juans aren't very picky.
Yes, that was my understanding, too.
Happy 4th of July, everybody!!
