Detect Scrying and spell resistance

[Deadlleg]

Currently in a game where we have been scryed upon, one of the players has detect scrying on pretty much all the time. The question is whether he has to roll spell resistance to see the person scrying upon him.

DETECT SCRYING
School divination; Level bard 4, sorcerer/wizard 4
Casting Time 1 standard action
Components V, S, M (a piece of mirror and a miniature brass hearing trumpet)
Range 40 ft.
Area 40-ft.-radius emanation centered on you
Duration 24 hours
Saving Throw none; Spell Resistance no
You immediately become aware of any attempt to observe you by means of a divination (scrying) spell or effect. The spell's area radiates from you and moves as you move. You know the location of every magical sensor within the spell's area.

If the scrying attempt originates within the area, you also know its location; otherwise, you and the scrier immediately make opposed caster level checks (1d20 + caster level). If you at least match the scrier's result, you get a visual image of the scrier and an accurate sense of his direction and distance from you.

They way I read this is there is no spell resistance against the detect scrying. Am I wrong?

[Drejk]

You are right. Spell Resistance does not protect against detect scrying.

[Deadlleg]

Drejk wrote:

You are right. Spell Resistance does not protect against detect scrying.

Is this anywhere in the rules? cause my gm really likes to argue about things like this.

[Morgen]

The part that you bolded where the spell says it isn't subject to spell resistance is pretty much the important thing. If that isn't enough there probably isn't much hope for your GM. :/

[Drejk]

Deadlleg wrote:

Drejk wrote:

You are right. Spell Resistance does not protect against detect scrying.

Is this anywhere in the rules? cause my gm really likes to argue about things like this.

Spell Resistance protects against effects that specifically note they are affected by spell resistance. This one specifically notes it is not affected. If your gm really wants he/she can house rule that detect scrying is affected by SR, but it will be house rule as it directly changes rules. There is really no place to argue otherwise.

[xevious573]

Nondetection and Mind Blank would work... otherwise SR does not apply.

[JJ Wolven]

The issue was that the SR entry in a spell usually refers to the target of the spell, which is the person being scryed on. Since it is a personal spell, it makes sense that your own SR wouldn't apply since the spell is being cast on yourself.

The argument that the SR would apply is because the second part of detect scrying is basically a reverse scry, and scrying is blocked by the target's SR.

[jjwolven]

Is there something I am missing in the on SR applying to the target, which is the caster?

[spalding]

SR doesn't apply at all because the spell doesn't allow for SR.

It's like expecting the later damage of acid arrow to have SR applied to it since it... I can't even come up with a reason.

No SR doesn't apply at all to detect scrying.

[jjwolven]

That isn't a logical comparison.
1. The target of the acid arrow spell is the creature you are shooting at, not the caster.
2. There are specific mechanics that talk about creation spells, the target is getting hit by something non-magical.

This doesn't address my question referring to SR being applied to the target of the spell.