Level 2 Spells for a Level 2 Wizard with an Intelligence Score of 20?


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I have a player who just leveled her Wizard to Level 2. Her character's intelligence score is a wapping 20 and, according to the "Ability Modifiers and Bonus Spells" chart in the CRB, she gets one bonus slot for Level 2 spells per day. I know that, typically, a level 2 Wizard can not actually cast Level 2 spells because, according to "Table 3–16: Wizard" in the CRB, there are no level 2 spells granted for the base number of spells per day. Does this bonus slot that her 20 Intelligence grants her, count as an exception? I would think that it should and my instinct is to allow her to use Level 2 spells but I'm worried that, in doing so, I might be breaking some aspect of game-balance design. What do you guys think?

(Incidentally, Hero Lab yells at me in red when I tell it to have her character memorize a 2nd Level spell - but I don't necessarily consider Hero Lab's algorithm to be the final arbitrator of the rules).


nope, you do not get to apply the bonus to spells per day for a spell level until the level progression for the class says you get it.

So, at 3rd, once she unlocks second level spells... she will have access to an additional one per day.

Silver Crusade

Your player's character does not get bonus spells until she is able to cast spells of that level. In particular, she does not get 2nd-level spells until she is a 3rd-level wizard.

Note also that she will get bonus 3rd-, 4th-, and 5th-level spells, but not until she is capable of casting those spell levels.

In the tables, when you see " - " that means that you don't get spells of that level. But if you see "0" then you get bonus spells of that level.


if it makes you feel better to see official rules....

from "getting started section of Core rule book" wrote:


Abilities and Spellcasters
The ability that governs bonus spells depends on what type of spellcaster your character is: Intelligence for wizards; Wisdom for clerics, druids, and rangers; and Charisma for bards, paladins, and sorcerers. In addition to having a high ability score, a spellcaster must be of a high enough class level to be able to cast spells of a given spell level. See the class descriptions in Classes for details.


Ah well for her.

Cool, thanks so much, guys.

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