Disarm with a Flaming Weapon

[KiloGex]

Simple - Would a flaming weapon deal damage on a disarm? It states that "a flaming weapon is sheathed in fire that deals an extra 1d6 points of fire damage on a successful hit" and in the disarm description it does refer to the disarm as an "attack". Therefore, would a successful attack during a disarm attempt count as a hit, even though no damage is dealt directly from the attack?

[mplindustries]

No, it does an extra 1d6 damage. Without dealing damage in the first place, there's nothing to "extra."

[KiloGex]

Excellent detail work, thank you.

[Bearlock]

Yeah, while you are making at disarm attempt, the attacks purpose is to disarm, not deal damage. However, if you wanted to deal damage on a disarm, look at the "disarming strike" of the Swordlord Fighter Archetype

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Another quick thought though, the extra d6 fire damage would count on a sunder attack though right? That makes sense

[mplindustries]

Bearlock wrote:

Another quick thought though, the extra d6 fire damage would count on a sunder attack though right? That makes sense

Yes, but energy damage is halved before applying to hardness.

[jerrys]

what about if i'm unarmed, and i disarm your flaming weapon. I could see an argument for taking 1d6 while i do that.

[Bearlock]

Eh, possibly on an unarmed disarm, but I think common sense is that somebody obviously trained in fighting unarmed would not be disarming someone by the pointy flaming end. If a PC that did not have either gauntlets or was untrained in unarmed combat I might allow it depending on the type of weapon

[mplindustries]

You could make any argument you like, but disarming someone doesn't cause you any damage unless they have an ability that says it would.

There's a lot of stuff that's perfectly logical (grabbing a flaming weapon would hurt) that is not how the rules work.

So, short answer, on the rules questions form: no, disarming a flaming weapon does not deal you damage. In a "how would you houserule this" forum, I'd say that's not a bad idea and I might go with it.