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'Entire streets' of Roman London discovered in the City


Limeylongears wrote:
'Entire streets' of Roman London discovered in the City

Super cool.

Its a pity that Time Team is no longer on TV they could have done a special.


Heroes of Revolutionary Socialism

Lucy Parsons: An American Revolutionary


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The 8th Dwarf wrote:
Limeylongears wrote:
'Entire streets' of Roman London discovered in the City

Super cool.

Its a pity that Time Team is no longer on TV they could have done a special.

They've now released some images ('mages' is what it actually says on the site :) ) from the dig, which can be seen here


Limeylongears wrote:
The 8th Dwarf wrote:
Limeylongears wrote:
'Entire streets' of Roman London discovered in the City

Super cool.

Its a pity that Time Team is no longer on TV they could have done a special.

They've now released some images ('mages' is what it actually says on the site :) ) from the dig, which can be seen here

The leather with the patterns is interesting.


Slimy Schlongears wrote:

Pizzle. Old Chap. Wang. Ayver. Nob, etc. etc.

Seek out a copy of 'John Thomas and Lady Jane' by D.H. Lawrence to read about the little fella in action.

On another note, I'd be a bit worried if mine looked like that obelisk, especially if someone had carved heiroglyphs into it.

ritual scarification is the only way! Mine tells the story of a lovely lady and three girls...


The 8th Dwarf wrote:
Investigating Bronze Age stone ships on Gotland.

Out of the latest bunch of non-revolutionary posts, this one is my faves.


One of the latest from Comrade Samnell.

One of the stories I heard years ago when doing Boston's Black Freedom Trail was that the ringleaders of Shadrach's escape were tried and were facing the death sentence for treason and rioting and were only saved because one of the jurors was secretly an abolitionist and adamantly refused to vote to convict.

"No, I don't think they did it..."

Hee hee!

Vive le Galt!


Comrade Anklebiter wrote:
The 8th Dwarf wrote:
Investigating Bronze Age stone ships on Gotland.
Out of the latest bunch of non-revolutionary posts, this one is my faves.

Thank you Comrade.... My Second favorite Prime Minister Gough Whitlam used to call everybody Comrade.

My favorite Prime Minister Paul Keating, while from the same party was not a fan.

Whitlam: "That was a good speech. You should go back comrade, and get yourself an honours degree."

Keating: "What for ? Then I'd be like you."


Ancient Roman Man Hidden Beneath Famous Painting at the Louvre.


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yellowdingo wrote:

I kind of like protoindoeuropean's development into languages of the world - its so revealing as to what happened in history. The Words for Two Husbands (describing the wife with two husbands) - a relationship that (for the Indonesians) evolved over time into something Taboo and on into the Word For Anus. Of course the word for second husband (or brother in law) is now just 'second'.

Tragic really - Nungi comes home after a hard day of killing giant Indonesian drop bears and finds her two husbands involved in some sexual exploration without her. And so ended her dream of two men to pleasure her.

"Anus" comes from the Irish word for "ring," or "anne," pronounced "aine."

Which is about ten times funnier than whatever it was you were saying.

No offense.


Comrade Anklebiter wrote:

One of the latest from Comrade Samnell.

One of the stories I heard years ago when doing Boston's Black Freedom Trail was that the ringleaders of Shadrach's escape were tried and were facing the death sentence for treason and rioting and were only saved because one of the jurors was secretly an abolitionist and adamantly refused to vote to convict.

By nineteenth century standards, I'm sure they had all eight people they tried dead to rights. Even in Boston, plenty of people didn't give a damn or thought the abolitionists were dangerous fanatics. But that's quite different from voting they should hang because they transgressed against a law that most of the white North found at least a bit obnoxious.

Of course that's the big consequence the Compromise of 1850 had for the Union in the longer term: forcing Northerners who were previously indifferent to decide where they personally would stand on slavery by bringing it up close and personal and, and this is a big deal, requiring each of them to personally assist in enforcing it. In an America that hadn't ever had so much as a draft, from late 1850 onward you could be deputized on the spot to help catch a runaway and if you refused you could face jail and a huge fine.


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When Hitler, Stalin, Tito, Trotsky and Freud all lived in the same place...


I'm afraid all I've got is non-revolutionary links today, comrades. :(

The (Secret) City of London, Pt. 1
The (Secret) City of London, Pt. 2


The Difference Between Holland, the Netherlands and a Whole Lot More


Hee hee!

I lied.

Scenes from the Class Struggle in Portugal


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These are some very cool pics from WWII that look like they were taken yesterday.

Amazing Pics from WWII


DungeonmasterCal wrote:

These are some very cool pics from WWII that look like they were taken yesterday.

Amazing Pics from WWII

I love this.


Did an Earthquake Destroy Ancient Greece?.


Archaeologists conduct the first-ever survey of the legendary WWI battlefield at Gallipoli.


Giza Secret Revealed: How 10,000 Pyramid Builders Got Fed.


Mini-robot finds surprise in Mexico's ancient Temple of Quetzalcoatl.


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Prehistoric Metalwork Discovered at Iron Age Site, Along With Gaming Pieces.


"I am Spartacus!"


"I am the Ayatollah!"


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Heroes of Revolutionary Socialism

"I am Elizabeth Gurley Flynn (born in New Hampshire!)"


Song written about EGF

Vive le Galt!


In honor of motherf~@~ing International Workers Day, I will bump this:

Comrade Anklebiter wrote:

Heroes of Revolutionary Socialism

Lucy Parsons: An American Revolutionary

More related fun history pages:

The Haymarket Martyrs

Eight hour day

Vive le Galt!


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*Stands to attention, clenches right fist containing sandwich and accidentally spray-paints self with Chinese chicken flavoured filling*

Arise, ye starvelings of all nations! Come and lick Chinese chicken flavoured sandwich filling off my face!

Er, some history, too:

The Cato Street conspiracy

The Newport Rising

And the Yorkshire rebellion of 1820!


Limeylongears wrote:

Arise, ye starvelings of all nations! Come and lick Chinese chicken flavoured sandwich filling off my face!

I'm afraid I'd not be surprised to discover there's a website for that sort of thing.


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The Battle of Maldon animated with Lego


Kajehase wrote:
Limeylongears wrote:

Arise, ye starvelings of all nations! Come and lick Chinese chicken flavoured sandwich filling off my face!

I'm afraid I'd not be surprised to discover there's a website for that sort of thing.

Rule 34, man. Rule 34.


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DungeonmasterCal wrote:
Kajehase wrote:
Limeylongears wrote:

Arise, ye starvelings of all nations! Come and lick Chinese chicken flavoured sandwich filling off my face!

I'm afraid I'd not be surprised to discover there's a website for that sort of thing.
Rule 34, man. Rule 34.

If there wasn't before, there is now.

Please stop invoking the Rule. You're making the internet even creepier.


Limeylongears wrote:

*Stands to attention, clenches right fist containing sandwich and accidentally spray-paints self with Chinese chicken flavoured filling*

Arise, ye starvelings of all nations! Come and lick Chinese chicken flavoured sandwich filling off my face!

Er, some history, too:
The Newport Rising

Vive le Chartists!


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Saw this post about Ned Kelly's armour by The Eighth Dwarf in the Guns & Armour thread and felt this might be a good place for it too, since it's a) historical and b) cool...


Bruunwald wrote:

"Anus" comes from the Irish word for "ring," or "anne," pronounced "aine."

Which is about ten times funnier than whatever it was you were saying.

No offense.

Actually, the root is Latin, not Irish. After all, "Anus" is also the root for the Castillian "Anillo", the Italian "Anello", and the French "Anneau", all of them meaning "Ring".


Isn't there an older word meaning "Portal" that is now deemed the origin of Anus?


Thanks Limey, Ned Kelly is one of my favourite subjects.

There is a continuing argument in Australia is he a murderer or a hero (these days he would be called a terrorist).

I believe he wanted to start a revolution and create an Irish Republic in Australia. He was more than a just Bushranger like Ben Hall, Captain Thunderbolt, or Mad Dog Morgan.

Song by a folk band called Red Gum... Poor Ned


Mack the Troll approves of Ned Kelly.


"One Man's Terrorist is Another's Freedom Fighter."


True dat.


Theodore W. Allen’s The Invention of the White Race

Making the rounds on all the far leftie sites, I should check it out.


I was reading about 1848 again. This time in Prussia.

Not a whole lot about it in English on the internet, I'm afraid.

The book I'm reading identifies, in particular, two leaders of the Berlin working class. One of them was named Stephan Born, and his wikipedia page looks like this. (It's a bit longer in German.) Poor Friedrich Wilhelm Alexander Held doesn't even have one and I couldn't find anything at all about him. :(


Comrade Anklebiter wrote:

I was reading about 1848 again. This time in Prussia.

Not a whole lot about it in English on the internet, I'm afraid.

The book I'm reading identifies, in particular, two leaders of the Berlin working class. One of them was named Stephan Born, and his wikipedia page looks like this. (It's a bit longer in German.) Poor Friedrich Wilhelm Alexander Held doesn't even have one and I couldn't find anything at all about him. :(

There is one: Friedrich Wilhelm Held. It's only in German or Swedish, though.


From Priscilla Robertson's The Revolutions of 1848: A Social History (1952):

Chapter VII: King of Prussia by the Grace of God

Spoiler:
For purposes of broad generalization, perhaps the mob after March 18 can be divided into the followers of Stephan Born and the followers of Friedrich Wilhelm Alexander Held.

Born was a printer who in 1848 was still yoo young to be eligible for either of the parliaments of that year, in Berlin or at Frankfurt. He was only twenty-three but he had already quite a history behind him. While his brother was studying to be a doctor at the University of Berlin, Stephan was a printer's apprentice, and every day during his two-hour lunch period he would steal over and attend lectures at the university. By 1845 he was working hard to carry education to workers' circles in Berlin and had published a pamphlet on justice to the working class. In 1847 he took the year of travel that was still customary for up-and-coming young craftsmen. He worked his way to Brussels, Paris, and Switzerland, meeting the far more class-conscious workers of western Europe. In Paris he was taken up by Engels and introduced to Marx; and this pair, who were busy organizing the Communist League, supported him all through 1848, although they later turned against him with the peculiar bitterness they saved for ex-friends.

Born got back to Berlin just in time to throw himself into organizing the workers' party...."We take our affairs into our own hands," was his motto, and he was determined for the workers to build up their own treasury, no matter how little each one earned. Out of small but regular contributions he foresaw eventually housing developments and librariies built by the working class alone. "Germany is not so poor that part of her children must be in need," he cried.

All crafts were organizing in Berlin at this time, grocers, hair-dressers, factory workers, the German cooks who issued a manifesto against the custom of hiring French cooks, the cab drivers who complained of the use of busses. They asked for higher wages and they asked that the shops be shut at eight instead of ten at night, so as to make their day only twelve hours long. On March 29 a workers' deputation even waited on the King, petitioning for a ministry of labor, popular education at the expense of the state, and economical government. "They go well together," muttered the King under his breath, and stalked out of the audience chamber.

But the workers would not be stopped. A chain of workers' clubs began to form all over Germany. They began to meet in congresses and to consider politics and the long view. Considering the short view also, they managed several strikes.

Of all their efforts, the most appealing was the tiny Workers' Congress in Berlin in August. The clubs spent months discussing who should be eligible to vote, and who to come; the call, when it was finally issued in June was signed by members from Berlin, Hamburg, and Konigsberg. Forty delegates finally assembled, representing thirty-one clubs from many parts of Germany. It was their intention to compose a people's charter, copying the English Chartists, and their plans were so inclusive that they worked out nearly all the reforms which were granted in the next fifty years--unemployment insurance, consumer cooperatives, free secular schools, with free books, and teachers who, though licensed by the state, were to be elected by the community in which they served. They demanded workers' housing, equality for women, income taxes, a ten-hour day, and foremen with some technical knowledge.

Such were the reforms which labor felt would benefit them, not the free press, the armed militia, and commercial reforms which were the revolutionary demands of the middle classes. The workers' groups were splitting off from their co-revolutionists in perfect Marxian form. Yet Born wrote to Marx that he would be laughed at if he called himself a Communist, and the Communist League could not get a foothold in Berlin.


Chaper VII, Part II

Spoiler:
Held's followers cut a much wider swath than Born's thoughtful, skilled craftsmen. Held fitted the popular notion of what a demagogue should be--he was a blond giant with a voice that could be heard from the Brandenburger Tor to the Belle-Alliance-Platte. He won his influence over crowds, not with hackneyed flattery but with wit and sarcasm, tricks he learned in his varied past as lieutenant, actor, and newspaperman. He left the army to run away with an actress, left the stage when he did not get enough recognition to suit him, and finally started the first cheap newspaper in Germany, the Lokomotive, which became immensely popular until it was suppressed. The government could not bear to have a paper which would bring for a year, to all who could afford one thaler, news, wit, and countless digs too subtle for the censors. When the revolution broke in Prussia, Held was in prison, but he was freed in the general amnesty of political prisoners and immediately took up the Lokomotive.

There was no doubt that he became the idol of Berlin. His portrait seemed to be in every house, his bust in every restaurant, women flocked to his club to hear him and showered him with love letters. He was the only man allowed inside the Democratic Woman's Club, which spent its time on such projects as how to take care of unemployed servant girls by womanly work. When a scandal developed between Held and one of the ladies, he was ejected. He had a bodyguard of 4,000 well-armed locomotive shop workers who were presumed ready to obey his slightest command. The King and the friends of order were frantic to get Held out of the way. And yet he was one of the safer demagogues, since he had no definite plans to offer, except that he was intensely nationalistic. On at least two occasions he used his immense prestige with the masses to prevent violence.

Held's influence was finally killed by what seems like an absurdly small incident. A meeting, which Held expected to be a private tea party, was arranged between him and one of the conservative ministers. The news, by fair means or foul, was publicized everywhere, so that people lost their trust in him. In October his fame was at its peak; by December his lion's voice was subdued to a puppet's, for he was last heard of running a Christmas marionette show in the Tiergarten.


This one's more tragic than cool.

100 year old (to the day) images of suffragette Emily Davison throwing herself in front of a horse at the Epsom Derby and suffering mortal injury.

Sovereign Court

I have great sympathy for the suffragettes and many modern day feminists, but why do people insist on interrupting sporting events? It's a move that to my knowledge never brings positive publicity to your cause and almost always just causes ire from the general public. I don't even like horse racing and if this hadn't have ended so tragically I'd have been angry that she pulled off the stunt.

Perhaps the real tragedy though was that she felt the need to do it. I mean back then women weren't even allowed to vote never mind earn equal pay or play the same sports as men. We've come a long way as a race but clearly we still have a ways to go yet.

But if you're a protester please don't disrupt sporting events. It's just not that effective.


Emily Davison: The Musical Interlude


Some hawties of 1848:

Lola Montez, Mistress of the King of Bavaria (and rumored to be the inspiration for Doyle's Irene Adler)

Sophie Friederike Dorothee Wilhelmine, Princess of Bavaria

Not sexy, but also, the Austrian Emperor during the '48 revolution, Ferdinand I, was considered feeble-minded, and treated accordignly, although wikipedia says he just suffered from epilepsy and stupidity.

Also not sexy, Mikhail Bakunin and Richard Wagner fought shoulder to shoulder (well, maybe not) in the street fighting in Dresden.

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