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Hello All,
I am trying to answer a question for a player in my group, If a magus cast a spell like frostbite. where he can make several touches per round can all of these be done with spellstrike or only the first one when it is cast?
Also is he only gets the melee attack on the fist touch granted by the spell are the other times discharging the touch count as free actions or standard touch attacks?
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Hello All,
I am trying to answer a question for a player in my group, If a magus cast a spell like frostbite. where he can make several touches per round can all of these be done with spellstrike or only the first one when it is cast?
Also is he only gets the melee attack on the fist touch granted by the spell are the other times discharging the touch count as free actions or standard touch attacks?
Frostbite doesn't actually grant multiple touches per round it just grants you multiple touches. So he could cast it, and then use it to Spellstrike once a round each round up to a number of times equal to his level.
All of them can be delivered through Spellstrike. You may be confused because the first two sentences seem related, but they are actually making separate points:
At 2nd level, whenever a magus casts a spell with a range of “touch” from the magus spell list, he can deliver the spell through any weapon he is wielding as part of a melee attack.
Instead of the free melee touch attack normally allowed to deliver the spell, a magus can make one free melee attack with his weapon (at his highest base attack bonus) as part of casting this spell.
The first sentence means he can deliver any touch spell through a weapon (the answer to your question.)
The second sentence means that normally, casting a touch spell gives you a free-action touch attack on the turn you cast the spell. A magus has the option of turning that free touch attack into a free action melee attack.
Also, keep in mind that when the magus uses Spellstrike to deliver a touch spell he does not target touch AC, he targets regular AC.
Using Frostbite, in subsequent rounds does the magus actually get to use Spellstrike's extra attack as if he had just cast a spell again, or does it simply mean his normal attacks through the next rounds continue to deliver the spell?
I'm guessing casting another spell of any sort disrupts the remaining "duration" of Frostbite.
The Magus only gets a free action melee attack on the round he casts the touch spell. In subsequent rounds the spell is still active, but he doesn't get any extra attacks.
And casting a spell while you're holding the charge on a touch spell always causes the touch spell to dissipate.
Touch Spells and Holding the Charge: In most cases, if you don't discharge a touch spell on the round you cast it, you can hold the charge (postpone the discharge of the spell) indefinitely. You can make touch attacks round after round until the spell is discharged. If you cast another spell, the touch spell dissipates.
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Using Frostbite, in subsequent rounds does the magus actually get to use Spellstrike's extra attack as if he had just cast a spell again, or does it simply mean his normal attacks through the next rounds continue to deliver the spell?
I'm guessing casting another spell of any sort disrupts the remaining "duration" of Frostbite.
He can continue to use his standard attacks to deliver the spell with Spellstrike. Only the first round grants him an extra attack. And yes, I believe casting another spell would end the effect of the Frostbite spell, the same way casting another spell would dissipate a held charge.
Using Frostbite, in subsequent rounds does the magus actually get to use Spellstrike's extra attack
Spellstrike does not grant any attacks. Casting a touch spell grants an attack in the round in which it's cast.
I'm guessing casting another spell of any sort disrupts the remaining "duration" of Frostbite.
Logically, yes. If the touch spell is still considered active, then you're holding the charge and everything works normally until it's discharged one way or another.
However, recently James Jacobs said that you only hold the charge of chill touch (and similar spells) until it's been discharged once, after that it no longer functions as a touch spell, but works more like an innate special attack that triggers on touch. This means no potential for accidental discharge, and you can stack up touch-effects (like Chill Touch and Frostbite and Elemental Touch). There's a FAQ Request post here if you'd like to see it addressed.
Aha. Thanks.