Barding enchantment costs?

[marcoval]

I have a cavalier who wants to buy enchanted armor for his Large wolf.

Does the cost of the enchantment get multiplied by 4 or just the cost of the armor?

IE If I wanted +2 Studded Leather, would it be 175 x 4 + 4000 = 4700 GP or would it be 175 + 4000 x 4 = 16700 GP?

[Isil-zha]

4700 the base cost is added to the cost of the enhancement

[Kazejin]

The enchantment cost rules remains constant no matter what you're enchanting. Only the base cost is affected by the X4 multiplier, you then simply add the enchantment cost normally.

[marcoval]

Thanks. Would this apply to resizing existing armor to fit my mount? The specific case I'm struggling with is we have found some large rhino hide armor off a non-humanoid creature that I want to be re-sized to fit my large wolf. There are those who suggest that I have to pay between 10k & 20k, arguing The raw cost is: large (2x) non-humanoid (2x) rhino hide +2 = 4 x 5165gp = 20660gp. Thoughts?

[kantas]

If it's magical equipment... and it's designed for a non-humanoid...

it resizes to fit the new wearer... Assuming your wolf is a similar shape to what was wearing the armor to begin with, and the armor to begin with was magical... your wolf should be able to just put it on.

just like bracers of armor, they resize to fit anyone between diminuative and colossal, heck they'd even fit a dragon.

at least this was the case in 3.5, I assume this was carried over to Pathfinder.

[kantas]

I should doubly clarify so no one jumps on this and tries to get all powergamey.

The suit of armor doesn't change 'shape' per say... A Human cannot put on magical armor that is made for a horse.

but a wolf could put on magical barding that was made for a horse. The general shape is essentially the same...

whereas the human requires completely different movement for the fore limb section of armor... and that part doesn't change...

it's been a staple of D&D that magical equipment changes to fit the wearer since at least 2nd Edition... possibly 1st, but i never played 1st and thus cannot confirm.

[marcoval]

Good clarification.

So it's from a Large sized ape shaped thing to a Wolf. What would be the cost to use it, or would he be able to use it at all?

[kantas]

I would imagine that because most apes walk on all fours, you'd probably be able to get away with just using it... because they are similar...

It's a bit of a grey area though, because apes can use their arms differently than most quadripeds... so it could be ruled either way...

I guess the definitive question is... could the creature that had the armor be ridden? if the answer is yes, then the armor is appropriate for the wolf. if the creature could not be ridden, then the armor is not appropriate.

ultimately this would be a GM discretion... because Apes are a bit of a grey area.