| Windquake |
Apologies, I searched the forums and didn't find this information anywhere.
So, when you drink the Feral Mutagen, it gives you a specific damage listing (it isn't based on size). However, the damage it gives, seems to be based on the next highest size.
So, I have a halfling (small size) alchemist. When I got the Feral Mutagen, I get claws and a bite. I will just focus on the claws for this example. The claws do 1d4, even though according to The Bestiary (p302) small claws do 1d3. Effectively, doing damage as a medium creature, but it isn't stated.
Later I got into the Master Chymist, and picked up the Furious Mutagen (APG p269), which says it increases damage "by one die step". It doesn't specifically say what that means, but I took it to mean like a size increase, so the claws would now do 1d6.
Now I have an alchemist of small size doing damage equal to large sized clawed creature, but no where does it explicitly say that.
So, if I get the benefits of Strong Jaw (APG 247), it says that natural attacks do "damage as if the creature were two sizes larger". Well, I am small, so that would make the damage as if I were large, which is 1d6, plus the Furious Mutagen, pushing it to 1d8.
Logically, the damage I am doing is already medium, with furious mutagen, up to large, and strong jaw would bump it up to gargantuan (meaning 2d6 claw damage).
What is going on?
Weirdo
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You start out doing d4 because that's what Feral Mutagen specifies.
Furious Mutagen increases this one step to d6.
It is my understanding that Strong Jaw is intended to simply increase damage by two steps, such that it doesn't have a reduced effect if for some reason your natural attacks are initially a little more potent than normal for your size (such as the attacks granted by feral mutagen). This would increase your damage to 2d6.
| Some Random Dood |
Now I have an alchemist of small size doing damage equal to large sized clawed creature, but no where does it explicitly say that.
Feral mutagen does say that.
Small claws do 1d3 dmg unless otherwise stated, but feral mutagen specifically says small claws do 1d4. So the specific ruling from feral mutagen overrides the general ruling from the bestiary. But if you got claws from somewhere else they would do the normal d3 dmg (if dmg wasn't listed).
| Windquake |
Cool thanks everyone.
Dood, it does kind of say that. My question was more about what happens when my halfling ends up Medium size? Becuase he was already doing damage equivilent to medium. But, I get it now.
If it would have said something like, the claws do damage as if you were one size larger, there would have been no question.