Drogon
Owner - Enchanted Grounds, President/Owner - Enchanted Grounds
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I'm pretty sure the D&D branded stuff is actually only available through distributors. GF9 isn't allowed to sell the licensed stuff to their direct customers, which Paizo is not (and why they aren't listed on the GF9 site). Paizo buys their stuff through Alliance, and that's where GF9 funnels their D&D licensed things.
I could always be wrong, and these are different, but this is how all the D&D game mats (like Inn of the Welcome Wench and The King's Road) and token sets (for 4e) have been handled - limited releases only available through distributors. For instance, I *am* direct with GF9, but I still can't get the D&D licensed stuff through them; I have to go to my distributor to get it.
Again, I could be wrong, but I can't see Paizo passing on this stuff if they can get it through Alliance.
| Steve Geddes |
Hmm, well I hope not. Having said that, I heard the same about the 3.5 reprints when they were announced, but they ended up available online.
I must admit, I found it puzzling they'd release such a small run of these. I figured there'd be a decent market for them, since they're such iconic creatures.
Drogon
Owner - Enchanted Grounds, President/Owner - Enchanted Grounds
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Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but my Battlefront rep said that these would be direct only and wouldn't be sold through distributors.
I'm sure the reason for the limited numbers that you're mentioning are because that is what the license from WotC to produce them stipulates. Battlefront may have been able to up the numbers, but they would have had to pay more for the license to do so, and at some point the math didn't make sense.
Frankly, we're seeing this all across the Wizards of the Coast product line. They have been doing this "limited run" thing to pretty good success (if success is measured by the number of people who really wanted it but couldn't actually get it). For instance, the Commander's Arsenal for Magic was a sure-fire, could've sold one hundred in my store type of item. We were limited to four, and they weren't available through distribution, so there was no way to get hold of more than four by going to multiple sources.
It's very frustrating, but seems to be how they want to run things, right now.
Not that I want to dissuade you from shopping with Paizo, but seeing as it seems they won't have these, I can tell you that you should be able to get these from internet retailers that deal with miniatures. There are several of those around.
| Steve Geddes |
Yeah (they have to be assembled too, by the look). I'm quite surprised, to be frank. I've really liked the licensed Gale Force Nine stuff up until this. The high price of these sets seems to me to basically be a function of the limited release rather than the cost involved in putting out high quality figures.
I do think they look good - but they wont if I paint them. :p
ratlord
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For that price they should be assembled, painted and have twice as many figures. ...at the very least.
To put them in perspective it works out at £8 per figure (for the 5 figure sets). It's just that you have to foot the price for all five at once. Their price is about the going rate for single, high-quality, fantasy/si-fi figures (which is not to say that they might be too expensive for some people's taste).
feytharn
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Lorian wrote:To put them in perspective it works out at £8 per figure (for the 5 figure sets). It's just that you have to foot the price for all five at once. Their price is about the going rate for single, high-quality, fantasy/si-fi figures (which is not to say that they might be too expensive for some people's taste).For that price they should be assembled, painted and have twice as many figures. ...at the very least.
£8 is about $13. That is douple the price of most Reaper and Magnificient Egos minis, most Freebooter minis are slightly cheaper. Warhammer is about the only producer within your price range I know of - which certainly doesn't amout to much, but I am pretty sure this is not the standart rate.
| Steve Geddes |
Lorian wrote:To put them in perspective it works out at £8 per figure (for the 5 figure sets). It's just that you have to foot the price for all five at once. Their price is about the going rate for single, high-quality, fantasy/si-fi figures (which is not to say that they might be too expensive for some people's taste).For that price they should be assembled, painted and have twice as many figures. ...at the very least.
I don't know, $50 for a huge, untainted, disassembled beholder doesn't compare very well with the huge/gargantuan mins through paizo (who I've heard labelled expensive).
It seems to me the price is a function of the rarity, not the content.
| Steve Geddes |
ratlord wrote:£8 is about $13. That is douple the price of most Reaper and Magnificient Egos minis, most Freebooter minis are slightly cheaper. Warhammer is about the only producer within your price range I know of - which certainly doesn't amout to much, but I am pretty sure this is not the standart rate.Lorian wrote:To put them in perspective it works out at £8 per figure (for the 5 figure sets). It's just that you have to foot the price for all five at once. Their price is about the going rate for single, high-quality, fantasy/si-fi figures (which is not to say that they might be too expensive for some people's taste).For that price they should be assembled, painted and have twice as many figures. ...at the very least.
In the US their price is $50 for five.
| Lorian |
The rarity is artificial however, and force by the licensing company, so that's kind of cruddy.
These are about twice as expensive as they really should be, or even if rounding up, at least half again more expensive than an equivalent reaper set.
Not to say they aren't nicely sculpted, just a poor value.
| Steve Geddes |
The rarity is artificial however, and force by the licensing company, so that's kind of cruddy.
With luxury items and especially collectibles like this, I take the view that pretty much all rarity is "artificial". Companies make judgements about demand and what production run will maximise their profits (predominantly, anyhow - there are other factors resulting in things like the reaper kickstarter which probably didnt maximise profits but rather allowed expansion of capital), they then produce accordingly. What else should we expect them to do?
It doesnt seem a moral issue to me, just not something I'm interested in (in contrast, I had no problem picking up the Orcus figure for $80 or $100 or whatever it was).
I dont think it's right to call this price "the going rate" though.