Yes, I know this is an Old question, done to death and I know there are other threads. But in the interest of not resurrecting them, I created this.
HOWEVER - I want an Official answer, not to be a Munchkin, not to be full of cheese. I just want to know how this actually works.
I do not want spam or opinions, I want cold hard facts.
By RULES AS WRITTEN does this actually work or not.
Lastly where is the ERRATA to fix this? People Cite Developer notices, and other facts, but they never link them. So they do not exist until publicly made available. Not hidden away on the depths of the abyss known as the Internet.
So the statements go as follows.
#1 : I DO NOT WANT SPAM / OPINIONS, just FACTS.
#2 : If it's not RAW or DEVELOPER / PAIZO - It does not exist.
#3 : FACTS are not links to other "dead" threads. They are reference materials from RAW / PAIZO.
Heighten Spell - METAMAGIC FEAT
Magic Lineage - TRAIT
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General Idea ::
Heightened 1st level spell to 2nd level spell. I.e. Magic Missile as a 2nd level spell.
Magical Lineage decreases the Metamagic level increase of Heighten Spell.
Magic Missile, 2nd level spell cast from a 1st level spell slot.
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Now, someone explain with RAW, if this is how it works.
If so, can Heighten Spell allow you to cast spells of a level, where you do not have slots?
Yes, I know there was an FaQ about being able to cast spells of that slot, however does Heighten / Magical Lineage use a lower slot or not, if so, how does not having a level 2 slot work?
If this is not how it works, and it works as the following
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Translated into Laymen :
Heighten Spell is a Feat Tax, that allows you to use lower level spells in higher level slots, to allow you to have higher save DCs and Penetration.
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If this is so, why did they not just errata Heighten Spell? As this reading of Heighten Spell, it doesn't require Spell Increase and thereby eliminating the Magical Lineage / Heighten spell conundrum. Does anyone have a RAW or PAIZO answer to this? Without hearsay or opinions being thrown about.
This question will probably not be answered, due to the fact that no one seems to be able to think Objectively about the subject.
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I have a library of developer commentary, but I'm not quite sure what information to try and dig up.
Can you give an example of your question?
Are you asking whether a 1st-level wizard with 18 INT, Magical Lineage (burning hands) and Heighten Spell could cast a Heightened burning hands as a 1st-level spell with a save DC of 16 instead of 15?
Are you asking whether a 1st-level wizard with 18 INT, Heighten Spell and Magical Lineage (flaming sphere) could prepare a "Heightened +0" flaming sphere as a 1st-level spell while having no 2nd-level slots?
Are you asking whether Magical Lineage reduces the DC of a Heightened Spell?
Are you asking something else?
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This question will probably not be answered, due to the fact that no one seems to be able to think Objectively about the subject.
Actually, I'm thinking of not answering it just for that tone. Don't be a jerk.
Jason Bulmahn, on a similar issue:
I am not sure that Spell Perfection and Heighten Spell work together in any way. Spell Perfection prevents a spell from having its level increased by a metamagic feat, and that is really all that Heighten Spell does. Without the level increase, Heighten Spell does not do anything.
Thank you Jiggy for reply.
All of the Above actually.
How does Magical Lineage effect Heighten Spell as a whole.
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Note that "Tone" has nothing to do with this, as this is written alone, if this were over voice or some such, then I would agree. But it isn't. Now, if you have no new information to add and are just replying for the sake of replying, please don't reply at all.
Jason Bulmahn on Magical Lineage and lowering a spell below its level
Magical Lineage was never intended as a way for you to actually lower a spell's level. It was put in to allow you to reduce the increase from a metamagic feat. So, no unlimited magic missiles. I will see to it that the language of this ability is clarified soon and I will get this added to the FAQ.
Thank you for the clarification reference material.