I have two questions here, both super relevant to my character idea, but from two vastly different angles.
The first being a PFS legality clarification-- the ARG racial archetypes are legal ONLY for those races, which, if I'm understanding it correctly, means a half-elf couldn't be a spelldancer, for example, because it is full elf specific? Or does "Elf Blood: Half-elves count as both elves and humans for any effect related to race." squeak them in?
From a more fluff-but-still-incredibly-important-to-me question, which would the offspring of a Half-Elf and an Elf be, mechanically? Half-Elf or Elf? I know Three-Quarters-Elf is ludicrous, but which side of the fence would he fall on? Is that enough to push him into "close enough" elf territory? Is one human in an otherwise long line of elves enough to 'taint' the rest of the bloodline to half-elfdom forever? Flipside for humans with an elven one-night-stand. Where's the cut-off point to transition from one race to the other?
I am pretty sure, but not 100% sure, that racial archetypes don't count as an "effect" for the purposes of hybrid blood abilities.
I usually use stats for a half-elf or half-orc for anything from 1/4 to 3/4 elf or orc, maybe 1/8 or 7/8 if the character got an unusually large dose of genes from the more distant part of their heritage. You can also use the Race Builder to build something with a combination of half-elf and elf traits, assuming that you are the GM or that the GM is cooperative. Or you can take half-elven alternate race traits that feel like they favour one parent, like Arcane Training or Ancestral Arms (elven weapon) or the trait Elven Reflexes for a 3/4 elf, or Integrated or Sociable for a 3/4 human.
Normally I feel that once it gets down to "my grandmother was an elf/human" you're going to see essentially human/elven stats respectively. For a 1/8 elf you could maybe use the human bonus feat for Racial Heritage (Elf) or trade it for Focused Study (Skill Focus Perception, Survival, Spellcraft, or Knowledge Nature), or take traits that feel elf-like. For an elf with a human grandparent I might trade Elven Magic for woodcraft if appropriate to background, or trade keen senses for Envoy (since the human heritage might make them more socially inclined). Or again, use traits.
Weirdo wrote: I am pretty sure, but not 100% sure, that racial archetypes don't count as an "effect" for the purposes of hybrid blood abilities.
I usually use stats for a half-elf or half-orc for anything from 1/4 to 3/4 elf or orc, maybe 1/8 or 7/8 if the character got an unusually large dose of genes from the more distant part of their heritage. You can also use the Race Builder to build something with a combination of half-elf and elf traits, assuming that you are the GM or that the GM is cooperative. Or you can take half-elven alternate race traits that feel like they favour one parent, like Arcane Training or Ancestral Arms (elven weapon) or the trait Elven Reflexes for a 3/4 elf, or Integrated or Sociable for a 3/4 human.
Normally I feel that once it gets down to "my grandmother was an elf/human" you're going to see essentially human/elven stats respectively. For a 1/8 elf you could maybe use the human bonus feat for Racial Heritage (Elf) or trade it for Focused Study (Skill Focus Perception, Survival, Spellcraft, or Knowledge Nature), or take traits that feel elf-like. For an elf with a human grandparent I might trade Elven Magic for woodcraft if appropriate to background, or trade keen senses for Envoy (since the human heritage might make them more socially inclined). Or again, use traits.
You contradict yourself a bit there. The exact case for this character I'd like to build IS in fact "my grandfather was a human." This makes him 3/4 elf. Building a new 'mostly elf' race isn't an option, as I'm looking to run him in PFS, and I'm not entirely pleased with that idea anyway, because it DOES sound like building the 75%elf as a race, which isn't a thing (I forget where precisely I saw mentioned that semi-percentages just wouldn't be messed with, you were either "half" or not). Going the elf-statistically-with-humanesque-options might be the way to go here.
Ah, I meant you wouldn't see much effect from a great-grandparent (1/8 or 7/8). Wasn't paying enough attention.
For PFS, that's more or less what I'd do - play an elf with human-flavored traits or half-elf with especially elf-flavored traits.
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