I've been following this project from almost day one and decided it's finally time to get involved in the community. So to that end, hello.
A lot of the chartered companies that have been started seem like fun, but I was surprised to see very few groups dedicated to evil. All I can find on the boards is a thread about that lack of such groups. I have awoken from my complacent slumber and decided to help change that.
What I want to do here, rather than making a pitch, is to extend my hand to anyone who wants to collaborate on a group dedicated to evil gods or evil as an ideal.
Such a group would be a haven for foul mages and anyone who wants to rape and pillage the nations of Galorion for the sport of it while lining their pockets with gold. A chartered company would be a great start: A group military in nature but self sustainable. The goal is to make a nation or city where the rivers flow pale with pus and the very land weeps with cancer.
Furthermore, I think an oligarchy structure would work. Firstly, a chaotic evil community seems like the kind where a single centralized leader would contradict the fluff of CE. Secondly, I am not recruiting minions but collaborators, and so I want to be able to share the spoils of the effort with anyone motivated enough to work on this.
Give war a chance.
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Looks like GL has their first target.
When I think CE, I think of the Sith(Star Wars), the leader is the strongest, and everyone tries to kill you to take your position. And I really don't think of sharing and CE going hand in hand. I would expect every pillaging venture end with a internal fight for the spoils.
If you accept sharing to prevent conflict, you are taking the first step towards a lawful organization.
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Looks like GL has their first target.
When I think CE, I think of the Sith(Star Wars), the leader is the strongest, and everyone tries to kill you to take your position. And I really don't think of sharing and CE going hand in hand. I would expect every pillaging venture end with a internal fight for the spoils.
If you accept sharing to prevent conflict, you are taking the first step towards a lawful organization.
The Sith order itself tends to be more neutral or even lawful. It's usually individual Sith who fall into really Chaotic. Really, I'd say Sith run the gauntlet of LE, NE and CE.
On the topic though, I think such a group would be welcome (OOC, less so in game haha).
Any names from such an organization?
Are you pitching this as a chartered company or more as a settlement/alliance idea?
Always awesome to get a warm welcome
I was thinking that an oligarchy could be cool for reasons of fluff. Perhaps we have five noble houses with their own armies instead of one. Each "house" could have it's own uniforms, different generals and different overall tactical niches. I'll spit some POTENTIAL ideas out there but am open to others.
one house could be a guild of assassins and guerilla warrior style pillagers.
Maybe another one is your typical coven of necromancers who fill the front line with with bats, locusts and squishy undead, with a heavy helping of tough-as nails dark warriors.
Another could be a group of crazed dwarven smiths, hammer wielding psychos and siege engine crafters/engineers.
The list of possibilities could go on, but the idea is that a city or group of cities led by evil squabbling nobles that compete for power but unite in their devotion to dark gods could be a TON of fun.
Also, in terms of scale we'll of course have to start as a chartered company but building a city (or even a nation) is the goal. I don't have a name yet, I'd like to start making concrete decisions once I find a collaborator(s)
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Furthermore, I think an oligarchy structure would work. Firstly, a chaotic evil community seems like the kind where a single centralized leader would contradict the fluff of CE. Secondly, I am not recruiting minions but collaborators, and so I want to be able to share the spoils of the effort with anyone motivated enough to work on this.
Give war a chance.
Well I would like to say when we get in Pocket ace's members would like to grant the warmest welcome to evil groups. AFIK we are one of the few mercenary groups currently formed (The first file being another), that will offer our services to evil companies who need to defend or expand their empire.
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The Seventh Veil, being Neutral, will also support Evil characters and companies. See Shadow-Haven.
We are not supporting Evil for the sake of Evil. Instead, we are (hopefully moreso than any other organization) dedicated to ensuring our members achieve their own goals, rather than setting goals for them.
We should seriously think of opening an rp thread to introduce our preplanned characters. or at least a general outline of who they are. a criminal mastermind a freak scientist who escaped the loonyben for the third time a conisure of pain and debotchery. or maybe the reason you are so evil is you found out your father was a fairy. (I mean like a tree spirit or something) I think that would make any pre-pubesent half-orc go into a mental ward.
I think an evil character RP/planning thread would be an excellent idea. I'll start one tommarow if there isn't one already.
There is plenty of RP over in the Shadow-Haven thread. :)
Yes, yes- but that is shadow haven. We should almost certainly be allies, but these are two different groups, unless you're willing to do a merger.
I think the primary difference between this rising group and yours is that my group has an extreme emphasis on military prowess. We are the army of evil so to speak, the Spartans of death. Also, we are chaotic evil. This slight difference will actually be pretty significant. We're not the types to open up bars and provide entertainment. We're the types who rape and pillage your village- who troll the good aligned sections of the community for no good reason. We will provide gold to the murderers of paladins, for example.
Also, I suppose this thread is as good a place as any to discuss characters:
My character is Verrun Hanotep, a pale and fairly short elf with a mohawk. His interests are eclectic but mostly center around anatomy, architecture and engineering, military tactics, vermin and the undead. At the age of around one hundred, his village was brutally raided by a goblinoid invasion force. Seeking refuge from the slaughter, he made his way into a mosoleum that he knew contained access to a deep dungeon.
Hiding in that terrible hole, he found that he had been tracked and followed by a sizable group of hobgoblins. By the time the mosoleum door opened, the panicked elf had risen a small mob of corpses for the first time. Cornered and terrified but thrilled with the casting of his first true necromantic spell, Verrun kept his back against the wall and started shooting at the hobgoblins with his longbow.
The young warrior mage tapped into every last bit of his physical and magical energies in his struggle to survive. Finally, his corpses destroyed, Verrun clung to the back wall of the dungeon and waited for the barbarians to close in on him, at which point a flurry of poisoned daggers shot from the walls, cleverly placed as traps.
The last hobgoblin was kept alive. It is said that he survived Verrun's torture for eight days, at which point he was missing four limbs which were kept from bleeding due to generous applications of fire.
Since that day, Verrun exists only to cause pain onto others. His friends and family destroyed and his fragile, erratic psyche pulled to it's limits, Verrun lives a painful life now. He can only find joy in the suffering of the innocent. Tragically, Verrun is now little more than a psychological casualty of war and has become no less horrible than those who came for his people all those years ago.
In place of friends he has the zombies and skeletons that serve so faithfully, even in death. In place of family he has the vermin of the crypt, finding kinship in spiders and beetles. If Verun makes any sense to you, you're probably crazy.
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There is plenty of RP over in the Shadow-Haven thread. :)Yes, yes- but that is shadow haven. We should almost certainly be allies, but these are two different groups, unless you're willing to do a merger.
I think the primary difference between this rising group and yours is that my group has an extreme emphasis on military prowess. We are the army of evil so to speak, the Spartans of death. Also, we are chaotic evil. This slight difference will actually be pretty significant. We're not the types to open up bars and provide entertainment. We're the types who rape and pillage your village- who troll the good aligned sections of the community for no good reason. We will provide gold to the murderers of paladins, for example.
We at Shadow-Haven pride ourselves on our neutral stance in political affairs. Shadow-Haven is primary a think-tank and service provider. We’re happy to meet the requirements of any settlement, nation or individual, but draw the line at actually assisting others in their efforts of conquest and domination. So in short we’re happy for the target to be squarely on your backs and will provide you whatever assistance you pay for. After all even armies of evil need a place to relax and unwind in between slaughtering good-aligned communities and hunting down paladins. I’m sure our two communities will have an mutually beneficial working relationship.
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Slaedrial Mythallar – Neutral Elvin Wizard / Cleric (Nethys) / Mystic Theurge
Slaedrial views himself as a scholar first and foremost and sees they study and advancement of magic as his primary goal in life. Dejected by his kins narrow-minded restrictive approach to the ‘forbidden’ arts, Slaedrial has sought out like-minded seekers of knowledge and established the Community of Shadow-Haven.
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I want to be an evil bastard too. I still think this group needs a name though.
My character's name is Goran Harsk. He's a straight-up line holder fighter, nothing more. I can't wait to see the stalwart defender PrC incorporated into the game so I can go with some kind of "Shield of Evil" motif.
Goran was a front line warrior and catapult operator who was briefly enslaved in war. He doesn't like to talk about it but everyone who meets him gets the sense that it's why he's evil.
Slaedrial Mythallar – Neutral Elvin Wizard / Cleric (Nethys) / Mystic Theurge
Slaedrial views himself as a scholar first and foremost and sees they study and advancement of magic as his primary goal in life. Dejected by his kins narrow-minded restrictive approach to the ‘forbidden’ arts, Slaedrial has sought out like-minded seekers of knowledge and established the Community of Shadow-Haven.
I love it. Hopefully we will be good friends in game.
I want to be an evil bastard too. I still think this group needs a name though.
My character's name is Goran Harsk. He's a straight-up line holder fighter, nothing more. I can't wait to see the stalwart defender PrC incorporated into the game so I can go with some kind of "Shield of Evil" motif.
Goran was a front line warrior and catapult operator who was briefly enslaved in war. He doesn't like to talk about it but everyone who meets him gets the sense that it's why he's evil.
Another sweet character concept. As for the name I plan on ratifying the thread later when the tequila hits my system.
I would like to contribute to this theorized guild. I offer Brom Karrak, a human barbarian with a lust for power and glory.
We should seriously think of opening an rp thread to introduce our preplanned characters. or at least a general outline of who they are. a criminal mastermind a freak scientist who escaped the loonyben for the third time a conisure of pain and debotchery. or maybe the reason you are so evil is you found out your father was a fairy. (I mean like a tree spirit or something) I think that would make any pre-pubesent half-orc go into a mental ward.
Your turn.
I'd love to see what kind of evil fella you could muster up.
Kastarr Eunson would likely bleed gold, if anyone could get close enough to cut him. Raised as the son of a small-time trader in Absalom, he soon learnt that morals only went as far as the next purse of coin. Using a little 'investment capital' from his old man, Kastarr quickly managed to grow his small fund thanks to a few lucrative yet unscrupulous deals.
Within twelve months he had quadrupled his initial pot of cash and began to diversify. Although he had started out in commodity trading, he spins became heavily embroiled in slave trafficking, smuggling and the acquisition of rare artefacts from places that he as not supposed to know about.
Three years ago, Kastarr found himself the subject of scrutiny following his meteoric rise to the top. He turned his back on Absalom and struck out for the River Kingdoms. It was there that he met an elf named Slaedrial Mythallar who had a vision of a settlement that would allow men like Kastarr to operate without impediment. Moving to the Kingdoms offered Kastarr access to prolific bandits as well as access to the courts of the various River Kingdoms.
Kastarr founded the Tilted Scales Conglomerate and set out to become the dominant economic and political force within the River Kingdoms.
If you were a part of this discussion I'd like to thank you.
I've now officially named the organization and given it it's own thread, and you should check us out. We're called The Leper Consortium.
News Flash:
It turns out Hanz McBattle is a notorious troll. And not the good kind- the kind we want in this organization.
I'll leave the details out of this but he's gone.