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What Kyle said.
Plus in this instance you are fine since the APG is part of the core assumption for GMs.
Careful Sveden.
GMs are expected to have access to the rules in the hardcover rulebooks (that are also available in the PRD) in order to prepare a scenario. They are not required to have access to all that material at the table. Though most will.
And they are certainly not required to share that access with a player who has forgotten one of their books. Though most probably would.
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I was waiting for someone to jump on that. Was hoping it wouldn't happen, but I knew it couldn't be passed up. *sigh*sveden,
By that, do you mean that the GM is expected to have a copy of the APG available at the table?
Heh. You should see what the boilerplate I have to put up with on the local FLGS's event calendar for what it claims a PFS GM has to have available.
I actually have all of it, in PDF format, but it is significantly more than the actual Core Assumption in the Guide.
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Careful Sveden.
Please explain.
What is that you mean because I don't understand. And to be clear I'm honestly not being obtuse. I just don't have any idea what this 5star is saying to me.
When a 5star speaks I listen. Its important to learn things from your betters. And when I get a warning to Be Careful, my ears prick up and my attention turns to problem at hand.
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re-read the rest of his post that you snipped, he explained it.I'm not sure what you mean by "Careful Sveden".
My avatar is Sveden. So that covers that half of the statement.
I guess I'm just wondering what the careful half means.
Done and done. I even went back and read it a third time.
And before you say its perfectly clear, just know that to me it isn't perfectly clear. I'm genuinely confused.
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Done and done. I even went back and read it a third time.re-read the rest of his post that you snipped, he explained it.I'm not sure what you mean by "Careful Sveden".
My avatar is Sveden. So that covers that half of the statement.
I guess I'm just wondering what the careful half means.
It's perfectly clear, not sure what you're <seemingly> intentionally being dense about then.
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Wait. Full stop. Everybody take a step back and breathe.
We are all on the same side here.
sveden was under the impression that the GM needed to have the APG available at the table. Several of us have corrected him, and everything's cool.
sveden, the "core assumptions for the GM" refer to the materials that the campaign staff expects the GM to be able to access while prepping a scenario. That does include the APG. So, if an NPC statblock refers to a bard's lingering performance, we should be able to look that up.
The campaign staff doesn't expect us to haul all of that to the gaming table every time we GM First Steps II.
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And regardless what the GM has at his fingertips, Players are always required to have the books in some format, with them. They may not use the PRD to prove they have the materials to run the character.
That being said, if they have the book with them, and want to use the PRD (Not the d20PFSRD) app on their tablet to use their character, I have no problem with that. They just gotta show me they actually have the book in question.
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On a realistic level, though, it shouldn't come up unless you are doing something weird or using something in an additional resource. When I play with Haunt Siphons, I bring the printout. If I was to play a gunslinger, I'd just have the watermarked PDF of Ultimate Combat on my tablet, because I don't think anybody would actually challenge me on the fact that gunslingers exist.
Note: I am not endorsing the use of materials that you do not legally have access to. I'm suggesting that it's more important to remember *why* this rule exists. It's to make sure that players don't cheat and because GMs aren't expected to own every additional resource. At a local game, you could prove it by bringing your book next week. The GM might have seen you with the books before. At a con, it is harder to remedy, but if you just left it in your room, you could go upstairs and grab it during a quick break.