Do Feats apply to Spell like Abilities


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Specifically, Would Augment Summoning and Superior summoning apply to a summoners ability to cast summon monster as a spell-like?


Lorgoth wrote:
Specifically, Would Augment Summoning and Superior summoning apply to a summoners ability to cast summon monster as a spell-like?

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As spell like abilities seem to not be spells (as far as I can tell), it does not.

Expect this thread to spiral into 80+ posts or someone to link you to the other 2 or 3 active threads on very similar topics.

Grand Lodge

Well, the Summoners ability to Summon Monster is (SP). And a Master Summoner Archtype gets Augment Summoning as a bonus feat. Those 2 things may be unrelated but I'd tend to think that it would work.

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Wyrmholez wrote:

Well, the Summoners ability to Summon Monster is (SP). And a Master Summoner Archtype gets Augment Summoning as a bonus feat. Those 2 things may be unrelated but I'd tend to think that it would work.

Also

*gasp* Shartstorm

Summoners also get summon monster on their normal spell list.

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Spell-Like Abilities (Sp) Spell-like abilities are magical and work just like spells (though they are not spells and so have no verbal, somatic, focus, or material components).


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Feats and abilities that apply to spells do not apply to spell-like abilities.

Here's another thread where I gave a bit more evidence.

This FAQ states that :

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Unless they specifically state otherwise, feats and abilities that modify spells you cast only affect actual spellcasting

In the first link, Sean goes into this a bit deeper.

For your specific example, Augment Summoning works with that spell-like ability due to Jason Bulmahn saying so.

I do not know if this applies to the entire Spell Focus (Conjuration) / Augment Summoning tree, or is just Augment Summoning. It states that it was answered in the errata, but I haven't seen anything that reflects this change.

For my money, I think it's safe to apply the spell focus (conjuration) feat trees to those spell-like abilities, but it's a really weird case and the oddities of the SLA don't make it any easier.


Thanks very much for those links, it helps alot :D

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