Agile Alpenstock = Masterwork Quarterstaff + effect?


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Pathfinder Maps Subscriber

Most magic items are required to be masterwork before being enchanted. UE has the Agile Alpenstock (a gnarled wooden walking stick) wich can explicitly be wielded in combat as a quarterstaff.

It would recieve a +1 to hit (but not to damage) because it must be masterwork, correct ?


That sounds right to me. I'd let that fly if I was GM'ing

Shadow Lodge

Is it a magic quarter staff? For instance +1 agile? If it is the magic enchantment does not stack with masterwork so it doesn't have an extra +1 to hit


Pathfinder Maps Subscriber

The magic on the staff isn't combat magic, it's an enhancement to speed and CMD. I was just double-checking that when you use it in combat as a quarterstaff, you get the +1 to hit for it being masterwork, as if it was a masterwork quarterstaff with no magic on it.


SlimGauge wrote:
The magic on the staff isn't combat magic, it's an enhancement to speed and CMD. I was just double-checking that when you use it in combat as a quarterstaff, you get the +1 to hit for it being masterwork, as if it was a masterwork quarterstaff with no magic on it.

The masterwork requirement is only for armor, shields, and weapons. Is it a magic weapon, or is it a wondrous item?


Pathfinder Maps Subscriber

It's a slotless wondrous item, page 276 in the UE.

Shadow Lodge

I would think no as it is unlikely that a "gnarled wooden walking stick" could be considered a masterwork quarterstaff. Also as a wounderous item it is not a weapon (though it can be weilded as one) so is wouldn't be masterwork.


Pathfinder Maps Subscriber

In that case, seriphim, could you pay the additional cost of a masterwork staff to get a masterwork agile alpenstock ?

Shadow Lodge

In my games? Sure. 300 extra for for masterwork. Could you post the text of the item? I don't have UE yet. It would probably reveal a lot about whether you could do it raw.


Pathfinder Maps Subscriber

AGILE ALPENSTOCK
PRICE 2,000 GP
AURA faint transmutation
CL 3rd
WEIGHT 1 lb.
This gnarled wooden walking stick aids a creature’s travel, granting a +5 foot enhancement bonus to speed and a +2 enhancement bonus to CMD against trip attempts and on saving throws to avoid being tripped. These bonuses apply as long as the agile alpenstock is held in hand. It can be wielded in combat as a quarterstaff.
CONSTRUCTION REQUIREMENTS
COST 1,000 GP
Craft Wondrous Item, longstrider

Shadow Lodge

"A quarterstaff is a simple piece of wood, about 5 feet in length."

Given that it can be wielded as a quarterstaff, and that a quarter staff is a long stick. I see no reason it wouldn't work. You look good.

Unless this is PFS. You can make no changes to magic items in PFS so you can't do that there.


Pathfinder Maps Subscriber

Ya, PFS is why I was hoping it was automatically masterwork due the the fact that you need to start with a masterwork item for most (see Grick's post) items.

Shadow Lodge

Sorry, I think you are out of luck on that. :( Maybe someone will come in and tell me I am wrong though. *crosses Fingers*

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