Who / What lives in the First World besides the fey?


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In the Pathfinder wiki it states: "The First World is home to all manner of strange creatures, apparently prototype versions of the plants and animals of the Material Plane. However, the chief inhabitants are the fey." It then goes on to say: "Some of the other races found on the Material Plane also have counterparts in the First World."

I find this tantalizingly vague so the header question was born. Also, if I DO say that exiting a fey ring the party instead sees a faceless stalker or an owlbear instead of a fey, which Knowledge skill should I require?


Knowledge checks to ID things don't change based on location. An Owlbear's an Owlbear no matter where you encounter it. Though if it has a template or something else on it the requisite skill for that template may be needed to ID it as something other than your garden-variety Owlbear.

Ex:
Nature check: "That's an Owlbear"
Planes check: "That's a Fiendish creature"
Both: "That's a Fiendish Owlbear"


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In the Pathfinder wiki it states: "The First World is home to all manner of strange creatures, apparently prototype versions of the plants and animals of the Material Plane. However, the chief inhabitants are the fey." It then goes on to say: "Some of the other races found on the Material Plane also have counterparts in the First World."

I find this tantalizingly vague so the header question was born. Also, if I DO say that exiting a fey ring the party instead sees a faceless stalker or an owlbear instead of a fey, which Knowledge skill should I require?

The First World is a place of constant change and evolution, with only small pockets of stability created by the Eldest. As such, you can describe things like a brightly colored flock of squirrels with bird wings that nibble fruits from the top of rich amber trees. Consider giving the same abilities as a classic Pathfinder monster but with a vastly different description to reflect the infinite variety of the first world. If the large yellow lizard with the mushroom growing off its back uses the same stats as a troll (maybe with slight adjustments), it can express the sense of newness to the players without forcing you to come up with a trillion new monsters.

Knowledge checks should be extremely difficult due to the infinite variety--even the fey themselves don't have the time and inclination to map the ever-changing flora and fauna of the First World. DC 20 + CR (the baseline for rare creatures) might be enough to know enough basic facts about the First World to make a bit of an educated guess.

There's also a fey creature template in Bestiary 2 or 3 that you can use for some of the First World creatures to give them strange new powers.

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The most significant thing we've done with the First World so far was the gazetteer we published in Pathfinder #36. That'd be the place to go to for more info.


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Besides the fey: treant, leshy and other intelligent plants, fomorian, voadkyn, firbolg, athach, ogre, merrow, banshee, hags, stygira, strigloi, ettercap, imps, goblinoids, barghest, kobold, kech, linnorm, vodyanoi, will'o'wisp, fogwarden, sandman, nature elemental, mortai, animate dream, sunfly, genius loci, wyrds, wicker man, winter wolf, yeth hound, cooshee, dweomercat, unicorn, azatas, sylph, boggart ...


I personally suspect that you can find some very bizarre aberrations in the First World. A lot of Fey can speak Aklo, which seems to be the default language for Aberrations. And they're supposed to be creatures from an 'alien nature', which does define the First World rather well.


Aren't all of the "Tane" described in the beastiaries (Jabberwock, Jub jub bird, bandersnatch, etc.) said to be from a primal fey world? I'd figure they'd fit nicely in the First World.


Yes, the Tane are from the First World, though thanks to their Adaptation ability can be considered "native" wherever they are at the time.


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There's a lot of gated subdivisions in First World too but many of the houses were foreclosed on when the mortgage crisis hit. Now the fey just occasionally sneak in and use the volleyball courts and swimming pools.

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rpgsavant wrote:
There's a lot of gated subdivisions in First World too but many of the houses were foreclosed on when the mortgage crisis hit. Now the fey just occasionally sneak in and use the volleyball courts and swimming pools.

You find a great many of those at the feet of the twins.


I love the first world, I wished this would get more attention instead of the robot planets...

I think all kinds of fey, strange version of other known monsters and beasts live here, with manyh strange plant humanoids and monstrous plants!

Favorite creatures by far are the Skrik Nettle, Zomok and Grodair.

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James Jacobs wrote:
The most significant thing we've done with the First World so far was the gazetteer we published in Pathfinder #36. That'd be the place to go to for more info.

For atmosphere, "Death's Heretic" takes a significant side trip into the First World.

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