Telekinesis grapple vs character under the effect of the blink spell.

[Ronald Vagoc]

Hello everyone,

I was thinking that if two wizards where to be in battle and wizard1 would cast blink on himself and the other wizard2 would then cast telekinesis and succesfully grapple wizard1:

question: does blink allow him to just escape since it causes him to turn etheral and therefore losing the grapple? Would the spell greater blink allow him to escape if he had casted that instead of blink?

Thanks in advance,

Ronald

[Defraeter]

Telekinesis is an effect of "force" as Unseen Servant, so if wizard2 is able to see invisible & ethereal creature, it could target Telekinesis on wizard1 without miss chance.
As it's an effect of force, telekinesis is efficient on ethereal plane too.
Blink allow to switch between material & ethereal...which is no use against an effect of force. Wizard1 cannot escape because of Blink.

EDIT: wizard1 is grappled by telekinesis but he's always blinking for everybody...

Note: i don't know your spell "Greater Blink". From which book is it?

[Ronald Vagoc]

I believe it's from compleet arcane,

Are you sure that telekinesis is a force effect? Cause I didn't see it in the list of force-effect examples.

[Defraeter]

Ronald Vagoc wrote:

I believe it's from compleet arcane,

Are you sure that telekinesis is a force effect? Cause I didn't see it in the list of force-effect examples.

DD3.5? Ah... don't play with that, PFRPG is enough ;-)

Effectively, i re-read the rules and i respond too fast.
Only Abjuration and Evocation [Force] have full effects on ethereal.
And "f"orce is not "F"orce.
The word is used because practical to describe Telekinesis spell. It is just a "magical effect" which allow to move "object" at range.
I was too influenced by films, i believe... ;-)

So you're true, Blink is not stopped by Telekinesis, and it's the same for other incorporeal/ethereal.

[Defraeter]

EDIT: only School: Abjuration and School: xxx [Force] have full effects (often Evocation but you have Mage Armor for ex. which is [Force] from Conjuration)

[Ronald Vagoc]

Alright thanks I understand it now. Spells that work vs etheral targets are spells that are force effects. Spells that are force-effects have the [Force] description which is found right after the school. For example magic missle is "Evocation [Force]".

Thanks for your response.

[Defraeter]

Ronald Vagoc wrote:

Alright thanks I understand it now. Spells that work vs etheral targets are spells that are force effects. Spells that are force-effects have the [Force] description which is found right after the school. For example magic missle is "Evocation [Force]".

Thanks for your response.

Don't forget the School: Abjuration, this school don't need to be [Force] to have effect on ethereal, if applicable to, of course.