Combat training and armor proficiency

[Ravingdork]

Where does it say that a combat trained animal is proficient in barding?

I can't seem to find the oft-quoted rule.

EDIT: I see that, with the FAQ, this is no longer true. Where were people getting the idea that combat training led to free feats exactly?

[Talonhawke]

I think from the combat or war trained entry for horses.

[Ravingdork]

I don't see anything now, anywhere. Was the offending text removed?

[Talonhawke]

Maybe I'll check my first print when I get home.

[Irontruth]

Nothing in the Handle Animal or equipment sections of my first printing.

[Ravingdork]

Maybe it was under horses in the Bestiary or under Mounted Combat in the Combat chapter?

[Irontruth]

Not mounted combat, can't find my Bestiary right now.

[Rathendar]

Animal Type in the bestiary and FAQ clarification on terminology.

Animal Type says:

Proficient with no armor unless trained for war. (See FAQs and Handle Animal Skill.)

FAQ clarifies.

War trained is actually detailed in the description of the Handle Animal skill. Of course, there it's called "Combat Training." It's one of the "general purpose" trainings you can give an animal.

Animal Companions were additionally clarified to operate based solely on their chart progression, and not gain the free armor proficiencies.

Does that help with what you were looking for?

[Ravingdork]

So do war-trained animals get ALL armor proficiencies then? (Note that the aforementioned FAQ simply says they don't get a bonus feat--they may still get proficiency sans feat.)

[Diego Rossi]

Rathendar wrote:

Animal Type in the bestiary and FAQ clarification on terminology.

Animal Type says:

Proficient with no armor unless trained for war. (See FAQs and Handle Animal Skill.)

FAQ clarifies.

War trained is actually detailed in the description of the Handle Animal skill. Of course, there it's called "Combat Training." It's one of the "general purpose" trainings you can give an animal.

Animal Companions were additionally clarified to operate based solely on their chart progression, and not gain the free armor proficiencies.

Does that help with what you were looking for?

I fail to see the correlation "Proficient with no armor unless trained for war." isn't the same thing as "Automatically proficient with all [or even any] armor if trained for war".

I can't find the relevant FAQ, you have a link?

[ryric]

Maybe people got it from the cavalier Mount ability?

PRD wrote:

The mount is always considered combat trained and begins play with Light Armor Proficiency as a bonus feat.

but it seems to me that people have been making this connection since before the APG.