While I don't want to have an eidolon that looks like a beholder, but I was wondering which base form would best approximate the beholder body type?
Unfortunately all of the base forms provide some kind of limbs or tail
So you have to convince your GM to let you do a custom build .hopefullytou are starting at level 5 or else you can't have wings and can't fly
I would go with serpintine and then start working on evolutions to get it to fly and such. Evolve it into a beholder.
I would go with serpintine and then start working on evolutions to get it to fly and such. Evolve it into a beholder.
Automatic tail = just another eyestalk
Infact equals the first eye stalk.
My idea was that the eidolon (The summoner will call it Shela) has a similar body type (floating mass) but instead of eye stalks tentacles.
I'll probably go with Finlander's suggestion.
Thanks everybody, though continuing thoughts and idea are always welcome.
If you are going for the "evolving into a beholder-like
creature" plan, consider giving it a better dex or higher acrobats score than its size/shape would hint at. This would represent its innate floatiness in a immature state.
Actually, I will like to thank you for this thread. Before reading your your question, I never thought of the eidolon actually mutating into a
vastly different form when it gains new evolutions.
Can you change an eidolon's basic body shape, or is the choice set in stone after character creation?
If you are going for the "evolving into a beholder-like
creature" plan, consider giving it a better dex or higher acrobats score than its size/shape would hint at. This would represent its innate floatiness in a immature state.Actually, I will like to thank you for this thread. Before reading your your question, I never thought of the eidolon actually mutating into a
vastly different form when it gains new evolutions.Can you change an eidolon's basic body shape, or is the choice set in stone after character creation?
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Someone feel free to correct me if i'm wrong, but as I recall once you pick the base form it's like that forever. The only exception being the Evolutionist who has a special ritual that allows him to change his eidolon's base form.
I believe only the evolutions can be changed at each level. The evolutionist is the only one that can change the base form.
Evolve Base Form (Su): Starting at 8th level, whenever he gains a level, the evolutionist can change his eidolon's base form to a new base form. Once chosen, this base form is set until the evolutionist gains another summoner level. This ability replaces transposition.
Finlanderboy is correct. Evolution points can be rejuggled each level, but the base form is constant. (barring that archtype)
note that when you get flight you can spend extra to make it magical flight that is not dependant on wings (i.e. floating) so that would fit the bill for the movement.
Unfortunately all of the base forms provide some kind of limbs or tail
Not quite true. The Aquatic base form has free evolutions of bite, improved natural armor, gills, and swim x 2. There are no particular requirements as to how the Swim evolution works -- in this case, it could be a very weak flight ability that only works in water.
So you can take the Aquatic base form and have it look like a Beholder from 1st level, and it could fly like a Beholder once you have reached 5th level and have the points to spare for perfect flight.
Unfortunately all of the base forms provide some kind of limbs or tailNot quite true. The Aquatic base form has free evolutions of bite, improved natural armor, gills, and swim x 2. There are no particular requirements as to how the Swim evolution works -- in this case, it could be a very weak flight ability that only works in water.
So you can take the Aquatic base form and have it look like a Beholder from 1st level, and it could fly like a Beholder once you have reached 5th level and have the points to spare for perfect flight.
Hehe... got the image of a giant Blow Fish.. whose spines eventually grow eyes!
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I think Paizo needs to add a "blob" type as a base form.
I think Paizo needs to add a "blob" type as a base form.
I agree.
You could do something like quad and add a tail, fluff them all as tentacles you are walking on until 5th when you gain flight.
You have control over what Big E looks like and there's no prohibition I can think of that would stop you from saying the limbs have eyes on the ends of 'em. (for looks anyway).
Quad + tail would give you 5 of the eye stalks needed for the beholder and a few iterations of the tentacle evolution could shore up the rest.
Not a bad image.. a big flesh ball waddling around on its eye stalks until growing old enough to fly- at which time it rolls around so the stalks are on top as is proper.
-S
You could do something like quad and add a tail, fluff them all as tentacles you are walking on until 5th when you gain flight.
You have control over what Big E looks like and there's no prohibition I can think of that would stop you from saying the limbs have eyes on the ends of 'em. (for looks anyway).
Quad + tail would give you 5 of the eye stalks needed for the beholder and a few iterations of the tentacle evolution could shore up the rest.
Not a bad image.. a big flesh ball waddling around on its eye stalks until growing old enough to fly- at which time it rolls around so the stalks are on top as is proper.
-S
That's pretty much what I was going to do. The quad also gives it a better base flight speed when flight is attained.
You'd definitely want to take the magic evolutions. And focus on rays and anything blasty.