Pathfinder character advice - bard paladin where to next? Also maneuver monk question


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Liberty's Edge

So, brief as possible: I made a character by looking at the Dawnflower Dervish archetype, and thinking "cool." Then I said to myself, if I'm a gung ho Saranrae worshiper with charisma and fighting ability, what now? So I took 2 levels of paladin. And then I went "uh...now what?"

So, what does a 1 bard 2 paladin do next?

Ideas: get more attacks with magus, since I already have dervish dance.
Get more attacks with maneuver master monk, because losing 1 BAB is worth extra actions, feats, saves and evasions that two levels there brings? (Maybe I don't understand flurry of maneuvers). Can I do both magus and monk? (e.g. regular attack, channel spell, bonus maneuver?)

I thought about paladin forever, but realized that no amount of lay on hands or awesome saves will save the party if the evil guys just target someone else. I also realized I've probably played too many bards, but running around casting save or suck or attacking with my scimitar as appropriate would be fine.

Since I know someone will ask:
Kitsune 1 bard dawnflower dervish / 2 Paladin Undead Scourge
str 6
dex 18
con 12
int 13
wis 10
cha 17

I just took my 3rd level, so the 3rd level feat is debatable, but I am set on at least 2 paladin.

feats: toughness, skill focus perform oratory? agile maneuvers? weapon focus?

Thanks for any advice!

Liberty's Edge

Bump? Any thoughts?

Grand Lodge

Don't dip anymore, just stay bard. I don't see a bard as a Save or Suck type character. What they are is a support character with a splash of in combat ability. A bards buffs are where he shines. Improving inspire courage, heroism, good hope, and haste are ungodly. Certain classes you can dip, but bars really isn't one f them. As you gain levels your action economy improves as does your spell casting, and I don't see much reason not o continue to progress it. Neither magus or monk give you anything worthwhile, frankly.

As for feats, you currently have Dervish Dance and Toughness. I believe lingering performance is constantly suggested for bards. I doubt you have the strength for power attack, and piranha strike doesn't stack with dervish dance. Weapon focus would be useful, but bland.

RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32

i agree with kiinyan (mostly)- pick one of the classes that you already have and stick with it (i think either class would work, but you should pick one)

Shadow Lodge

Stick with Pally. You get immunities and auras, and SMITE EVIL. The Baddies that ignore you will die from your scimitar.

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