Wolfolk, because we already have cats, rats and birds


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Quintin Belmont wrote:

Actually i didn't intend that. Im not that much of a prolific punster.

plus i forgot how to spell loop for a while. My writing skills quite honestly ghastly.

...plus in my mind i was thinking of a jeweler's loupe for some reason.

Wow... And my group thinks I am bad...


Quintin Belmont wrote:
as for the gender roles...well to be honest muscular chicks who fight well turn me on. even more so when their anthro babes

Strangely, I agree... But I was thinking of the Males being more Martial with Females being more Rogue/Caster focused. In my experience that is how full blooded Wolves are.

P.S.: Awesome Webcomic.

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If you love Tabletop games and bad puns I recomend the webcomic [url=http://dominic-deegan.com/]Dominic Deegan: Oracle for Hire[/url

Plus while i love the idea of Dimorphism i wanna keep this simple and just make stats for the whole race. Later we can mage Racial Archetypes and Alternate features.


Quintin Belmont wrote:

If you love Tabletop games and bad puns I recomend the webcomic Dominic Deegan: Oracle for Hire

Plus while i love the idea of Dimorphism i wanna keep this simple and just make stats for the whole race. Later we can mage Racial Archetypes and Alternate features.

Fixed it.

Hmm... Say +2 STR, +2 INT, -2 CHA. They are strong and intelligent but tend to be off-putting.

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hmmm i like that, but lets see what else we have.

So so far we Have a standerd Score array (0rp)

Bite attack(1rp)

Deadeye's Lore once per day (1rp)

lowlight vision (1rp)

standerd language selections (0rp)

Now those are what we somewhat agree upon so far meaning we have 3rp total. Now lets brainstorm some.


Scent or Track. Bonus to Perception & Survival Maybe have them always be Class Skills.

Maybe give them Claws as well.

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Claws and Scent are Advanced racial traits.

Perhaps we give them a bonus teamwork feat (2rp), Focused Study (4rp) and then either Stalker or Enclave Protector (both 1rp)

Or perhaps 2 teamwork feats, Stubborn (2 rp) and some other thing?

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Or we can go for Flexible abilities and go for something else.


Racial Limits are more of Guidelines.

Look at the Lizardfolk breakdown where they have only 8 RP.

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Azaelas Fayth wrote:

Racial Limits are more of Guidelines.

Look at the Lizardfolk breakdown where they have only 8 RP.

I know that, but the little munchkin in me is screaming to be heard.

Plus I am annoying when it comes to rule...i just feel compelled to follow rule (unless there stupid ones like "if it doesn't say than you cant" or "Reptiles dont have mammaries"....personally i say thier fat stores like what snakes do in thier tails, but thats just me.)


Look at my Dogfolk race. The only reason why I didn't add in a Bite or Claw attack is just to keep them in line with the Fluff of the Chimeryn.

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hmmm i am furnished with a thought. let me ponder this for a moment.

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THe Louphi (new name)

+2 Int, +2 Con. THe Louphi are intelligent and adaptable -2rp-

Bite -1r-

Weapon familiarity: Louphi are naturally proficiant in he Tekko Kagi and Shotel. -1rp-

Lowlight Vision -1rp-

Deadeye's Lore Once per day -1rp-

Coordinated Maneuvers Bonus Feat -2rp-

Skill Bonus: +1 to Stealth and Pereption -2rp


Sica would fit in with the Shotel as they are similar.

And maybe that Catfolk Claw weapon.

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I was thinking Tekko Kagi since they are Iron Claws, plus they are excellent for Manuevars and are able to act as bucklers

Shotel i chose since, well it looks like a fang and it was the only onehanded weapon i thought would fit besides the Great Terbutje

Pluss the kagi fir wolves more since cats mainly use thier claws to quickly cut and taer while wolves, when they do use thier claws, prefer to perform rending actions.

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sorry, this writst brace messes with my spelling


Wild Wolves actually use their claws more than people think...

Hmm, Why not make it Weapon Familiarity: Shotel, Sica, Tekko Kagi, & Scimitar. Or you could give them Sword Training.

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I already have plans for another canine group and Scimitars (they were meantioned once in the history) plus i wanted to keep i simple and have one light weapon and one onehanded (so there'll be something for every type of fighter whether Str or Dex based)

Also thanks for all your insight on Wolves. I must admit my knowledge of ecology is still rather amatuerish and its good to have someone more knowledgable than me around.


Cool.

And Wolves are very surprising in their abilities.

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So, is everyone happy about the race now?

Also i realized there wasn't enough space on the page to really talk about the otherthings about the Louphi, so imma add some stuff to it too.

any questions?


It seems awesome. Are you planning to post them into the Docs?

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im just going to edit My current Doc file


I figure that is what you would do just figured I would ask.

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THats cool and i respect that. A scientist must be thourogh

anyway on a side note: wanna brainstorm some archetypes?


Does a Wolf mate for life? (The answer is yes.)

Be warned the archetypes might be modified for my Dogfolk.

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Azaelas Fayth wrote:

Does a Wolf mate for life? (The answer is yes.)

Be warned the archetypes might be modified for my Dogfolk.

I knew that, and it is one of the reasons i love and respect wolves: for thier loyalty, respect, and love for thier precious ones. I was actually introduced to how awesome they are through Miyazaki films and the book Never Cry Wolf....Plus my name is translated from a phrase concerning wolves (hint its a gaelic rooted name)

And i dont mind you sharing the archetype... as long as you dont mind me giving suggestions on how to improve it.

Also, would you also like to help with Stating the Jakrir once all this is done?


Of course. I love theorycrafting/homebrewing.


Not sure I'm digging the name. While I get where the root words are coming from and what they mean, "louphi" sounds way too much (to me anyway) like "loopy".


Caedmyn. Derived from Caedmon.

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@Harrison: Its pronounced Loo-Fie. if you look at the history and society you'll guess as to what religiousreference I used to help make them

@Azaelus:close but no. heres a hint: its derived from Conchobhar


I was saying for the Races Name...

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Azaelas Fayth wrote:
I was saying for the Races Name...

oh, sorry, and no. I made it by combining Loup and Nephi. I thought it felt apropriate. and if you dont know who Nephi is dont worry, I dont expect many people to know him since he is a somewhat obscure religious figure.

...oh wait you were confused aabout

Quintin Belmont wrote:
Plus my name is translated from a phrase concerning wolves (hint its a gaelic rooted name)

When i said that i meant my personal name

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how many alternate traits should i have? i've written five so far


I have a race with 6... Wait do you mean each individual racial trait or alternate race subtypes like a Plains and Jungle.

And I know Nephi... don't remember much off the top of my head though...


They should collectively be known as Norfolk.

Neither man nor beast, of course.

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Azaelas Fayth wrote:

I have a race with 6...

And I know Nephi... don't remember much off the top of my head though...

here's the reader's digest version: Nephi was the son of Lehi, a jewish prophet that lived around 600BC (making him a contemperary with Jeremiah). Lehi recieved a vision from God telling him to leave Jerusalam due to its coming destruction and to take his family to the wilderness where he would lead them to a promised land and be able to preserve a branch of the tribe of Israel. Eventually they went by (built by Nephi) boat to the Americas where Nephi was given his father's birthright. Soon after they seperated into to nations: The nephites, who were Nephi's descendants who lived rightiously under the teachings of the Lord (until they were destroyed for turning thier back on the lord and around 400AD), and the Lamenites, who followed Lehi's wicked and unfaithful eldest sons Lamen and Lemual and whose descendants eventually became the Native Americans. The story of Nephi and his descendants is recorded in the series of scriptual books known commonly as The Book of Mormon

...yup, I made Mormon Wolves...crazy!


By the Goddess...I do know supposedly I suppose you could say Nephite blood is in the Cherokee tribe... Especially my family's ancestors...

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That would be erronious since all the nephites were kiled off during the final war against the Lamanites (Except for Mormon and his son Moroni who fled from thier people in order to record thier destruction and hide the records as they were isntructed by the lord. they still died later though). It was the Lamanites who ended up inhereting the land (though they were warned it would not be pleasant since they were originally the main troublemakers).

also thats cool. My grandfather was Oglala, he passed away recently though. i have just enough blood in me to legally count.

Anyway I have the Alternate traits done (stuck to five) now i need to think of arhetypes.


Meh. Apparently the legend goes a small faction made up of people from both sides broke off prior to the war and founded a small neutral territory.

It is one of those things that we have little proof of either way. The thing that makes me laugh is the Book of Mormon goes against most Native American Tribes Creation Myths.

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Well considering the Book of Mormon is a Christian book of scripture and the Nephites were taught in the ways of the Jews (until Jesus came to them after the ressurection and replaced the Mosaic Law with the more complete law which included the sacrament, the ordination of the apostles, and the restoring of the full priesthood) it would make more sense that there would be some disreprencies.

also im not sure where in the Book of Mormon states that, sounds like hear-say to me.

....Anyway back on topic what three classes do you think would work well with an Archetype for our L ouphi


Oh no the legend is from Cherokee lore that they were formed from a Faction of the Two Clans/Tribes that came to the Paradise Land.

Ranger, Fighter, and Barbarian.


I don't understand, why not just use gnolls as the base template? Yeah, they're hyena men instead of wolves, but they are still there and pretty much are the dog-faced character one would play.

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Supreme wrote:
I don't understand, why not just use gnolls as the base template? Yeah, they're hyena men instead of wolves, but they are still there and pretty much are the dog-faced character one would play.

wow... thats a lil' racist, or ignorant. Im sorry, but comparing Hyenas to Wolves is like comparing the Japanese to the Indians (I mean the subcontinent variety, not the Western Hemisphere kind)

The two animals have completely different social interactions, ecological niches, native enviroments, physiologies and temperments. All they share is having the distinction of being canine animals and that is it.


You did not just compare Wolves to Hyenas...

That is like comparing a God to the worst inbred Ogre in Golarion.

Actually, Hyenas being canines is up for debate right now... they apparently are closer to a type of Feline than Canine when it comes to major Genetics. Albeit that isn't much of a difference but it does make more sense if you really think about it.

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Anyway I was thinking of have Ranger, Inquisitor, and forget about a third one, for archetypes.

Also a feat line themed around being an Alpha

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Azaelas Fayth wrote:

You did it just compare Wolves to Hyenas...

That is like comparing a God to the worst inbred Ogre in Golarion.

Actually, Hyenas being canines is up for debate right now... they apparently are closer to a type of Feline than Canine when it comes to major Genetics. Albeit that isn't much of a difference but it does make more sense if you really think about it.

true dat, that probably explains the prescence of the extra..."equipment" that the females have


Hyenas are inbred lions now it all makes sense!

And an Alpha based Feat chain of 2-3 feats would be neat.

Ranger absolutely. Inquisitor I can understand. Maybe a Monk, Wizard, or Sorcerer Archetype?

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hmmmm I like those three extra choices.

But how would they work? here are some ideas.

Ranger: Bond with Kinsmen and learn how to use Teamwork feats without his bonded allies needing them. can specialize more on fast movement and hunting skills over favored enemies.

Inquisitor: Weaken judgements a tad and learn to split judgement abilities amongst party. Lose Sense motive for more defense themed ability.

Monk: no idea. probably based more on Knowledge and insight than on raw combat skill

Wizard: Specialized in Leyline Magics, forming a bond with the land rather than a normal arcane focus.

Sorcerer: Beatial bloodline. excellent for combat sorcerers and buffing.

Also a fun fact: Allowat the founder of the modern Louphi nation was an Oracle/Cavalier. Raethor his brother was a Magus/Antipaladin


Hmm... Maybe Cavalier Archetype would be better...

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Azaelas Fayth wrote:
Hmm... Maybe Cavalier Archetype would be better...

But the problem with that is that the Cavalier class is already perfectly suited for the Louphi.

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