While looking over some Rogue archetypes that might be interesting to play as, I had an idea for the Swashbuckler Rogue, but I'm not fully sure if it's a legal move.
The Swashbuckler's Martial Training ability reads: At 1st level, the swashbuckler may select one martial weapon to add to her list of weapon proficiencies.
Well, shields can be used as Martial Weapons, so if you pick shields as your one "Martial Weapon", does that basically give you proficiency with that type of shield as if you had the Shield Proficiency feat?
IIRC no, as the description states you have to have Shield Proficiency in order to wield a Shield as a weapon.
I am not sure Though... give me a few minutes and I might can answer better.
EDIT: Can't find that... I would say it depends on your GM.
While looking over some Rogue archetypes that might be interesting to play as, I had an idea for the Swashbuckler Rogue, but I'm not fully sure if it's a legal move.
The Swashbuckler's Martial Training ability reads: At 1st level, the swashbuckler may select one martial weapon to add to her list of weapon proficiencies.
Well, shields can be used as Martial Weapons, so if you pick shields as your one "Martial Weapon", does that basically give you proficiency with that type of shield as if you had the Shield Proficiency feat?
Even without proficiency with shields, you can pickup a darkwood buckler or shield without penalty.
Even without proficiency with shields, you can pickup a darkwood buckler or shield without penalty.
Even still, I'm wondering if the concept works as a whole.
As a whole I can see it working. Would it require a hefty feat tax to make it self-sufficient? Yes.
As a whole I can see it working. Would it require a hefty feat tax to make it self-sufficient? Yes.
Which feats would it require?
All I'm wondering, at this point, is if I can get a proficiency with a shield through a feat that gives me proficiency with any Martial Weapon of my choice, since shields are legal martial weapons.
As a whole I can see it working. Would it require a hefty feat tax to make it self-sufficient? Yes.Which feats would it require?
All I'm wondering, at this point, is if I can get a proficiency with a shield through a feat that gives me proficiency with any Martial Weapon of my choice, since shields are legal martial weapons.
Sorry after doing the math I shouldn't have said Hefty.
From what I can tell it would give you Martial Proficiency in the shield. BUT it would NOT give you Shield Proficiency with it. Meaning you have to get that Feat if the swashbuckler doesn't give it. Plus you would suffer all the penalties from being non-proficient with the Shield.