Ranger: Freebooter + Infiltrator


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I have a Freebooter Ranger who's about to hit 3rd level but I'm not so thrilled about Favored Terrain. The Infiltrator Archetype gets rid of Favored Terrain but I'm really confused as to how those 2 archetypes interact.

Infiltrator gives you additional bonuses against certain favored enemies, but Freebooter gives up Favored Enemies...

Would the bonuses chosen from Infiltrator apply when I'm using Freebooter's Bane against that creature type then? Or are the archetypes just completely incompatible?

Scarab Sages

Justin Riddler wrote:

I have a Freebooter Ranger who's about to hit 3rd level but I'm not so thrilled about Favored Terrain. The Infiltrator Archetype gets rid of Favored Terrain but I'm really confused as to how those 2 archetypes interact.

Infiltrator gives you additional bonuses against certain favored enemies, but Freebooter gives up Favored Enemies...

Would the bonuses chosen from Infiltrator apply when I'm using Freebooter's Bane against that creature type then? Or are the archetypes just completely incompatible?

Unfortunately, you cannot take an archetype if another archetype you've taken replaces or alters the same class feature, so you cannot take both Infiltrator and Freebooter.

From the PRD:

"A character can take more than one archetype and garner additional alternate class features, but none of the alternate class features can replace or alter the same class feature from the core class as another alternate class feature. For example, a paladin could not be both a hospitaler and an undead scourge since they both modify the smite evil class feature and both replace the aura of justice class feature."

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Infiltrator only replaces Favored Terrain. The Adaptation ability it gives you, however reads:

Adaptation wrote:
He chooses one type of creature he has selected as a favored enemy, such as “aberrations.” The Ranger selects one ability or feat from the adaptation list for that type

Scarab Sages

Justin Riddler wrote:

Infiltrator only replaces Favored Terrain. The Adaptation ability it gives you, however reads:

Adaptation wrote:
He chooses one type of creature he has selected as a favored enemy, such as “aberrations.” The Ranger selects one ability or feat from the adaptation list for that type

Let me try this again:

" but none of the alternate class features can replace or alter the same class feature from the core class as another alternate class feature."

Infiltrator replaces Favored Terrain, and alters the favored enemy class feature, so they can't stack.
Even if that reading of the rules doesn't work for you, you'd be taking a class ability (Adaptation) that does absolutely nothing for you, since you don't have the class feature required to make it work (favored enemy).
Unfortunately, the two abilities do not stack no matter what way you cut it.

Also from the PRD:

" A character who takes an alternate class feature does not count as having the class feature that was replaced when meeting any requirements or prerequisites."

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