Does it need to be an actual spell (and if so, does it matter what classes of caster can take it?), or would, for example, the Alchemist's Madness Bombs count?
Touch of idiocy targets all three.
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Mind fog might work for what you're thinking. It doesn't target Wisdom in the way of ability damage, but it does impose heavy penalties on Wisdom-related rolls.
OK... I have to ask. Why do you need this spell?
As far as I know there isn't any spells that target WIS.
EDIT: I stand corrected... though I don't think any of them ignore saves.
This is true... next question what is the primary target you are going after?
EDIT: is it just me or is it funny the spell that imposes a -10 to will saves requires said save to negate?
OK.. the problem you are going to have is they get a will save to negate the penalty...
I'm guessing this is an Evil character as well...
If you have Silent and Still metamagic feats... I personally say kill them then reanimate them as Magus Zombies from Classic Horrors Revisited(?). They get to keep all spellcasting abilities up to a certain point.
If you really don't wanna do that then Mind Fog seems your best option as it stands... though you don't even need to cast it quickened. Though you might need something to get the DC up.
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For Wis damage/drain you could also apply poison - take a look at the PRD under Glossary you find a disease and some poisons which damage Wis.
Ruyan.
To be honest, I'm thinking touch of idiocy is the best plan. Although it isn't as solid (may roll 2 1's) it is almost certainly more secure due to the complete lack of a save. Even in the worst case scenarios four castings (myself and my familiar, maybe even my cohort and some followers) casting it at the same time will be a perfect way to geas high level, his WIS targets.
Actually touch of idiocy wouldn't get you that far. Multiple casting of the same spell is not going to stack.
However you could use lesser rod of maximize spell to ensure that -6 penalty on all the mental ability scores.
On top of this, you could use Bestow Curse to give the target a -4 penalty on attack rolls, saves, ability checks, and skill checks. Or bestow curse for a -6 decrease in wisdom.
It might be possible to use both effect from bestow curse, since they are unrelated effects, but I am not sure about it.
I OK I wasn't sure it you were planning to keep them for long or not.
Touch of Idiocy only effects them once with the penalty though it might extend the duration... it has been a while since I have need to know anything along those lines.
Touch of Idiocy followed by Bestow Curse and Mind Fog, in what ever order is most effective might work... if the effects stack you could be looking at a near auto-success on the Geas spell.
Though I could be totally wrong. All else fails Grease makes a great spell for a get away. Especially against low reflex saves. ;P slick up the ground and get out of there like your late for a very important date. :3
And yes I am slightly out of it.
Empowered Maximized Touch of Idiocy, one of them from a rod is a -9 penalty. :)
WAIT! Didn't you say you were tied up? Or at least gagged?
if so you will need the Still and/or Silent spell feats to cast.
Got a witch handy? The Evil Eye hex will give a target a penalty to saves for at least one round (even if they pass their save against the witch), The Misfortune hex also helps, since it will force them to roll their save twice and take the worse result.
This is a rather interesting thread, given it just showed me how there are almost no ways of lowering Wisdom aside from poisons and a single scattering of spells and other effects.
But mainly I want to be secure, I need to permanently geas a few fighters, antipaladins and other characters which would be useful on a ship.
Just keep in mind that a geas won't turn them into mind slaves per se (admittedly, you used that term in another post, so could be planning to use other spells)...
The geased creature must follow the given instructions until the geas is completed, no matter how long it takes. [...] A clever recipient can subvert some instructions.
Make sure to keep both considerations of the spell in mind. A ship full of blackguards would doubtless hate your for commanding their servitude in such a way, and could likely communally find at least one loophole in your wording. Just be careful. ;)
The only restriction to Metamagic Feats is the Spell level increase.
If you wouldn't mind. What exactly is your situation?