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I think a sub forum by state would be awesome in the gmaer connection forum.
There are 3 forums currently all front page from AZ alone, i've seen it done in other forums before. Just a suggestion. Thanks.
If this could be done, may I ask the same be done for Canada?
We may not be as populous, but we're just as big and even more spread out.
Edit: Plus, there's only 10 Provinces and 3 Territories. You wouldn't even have to do that many. You could just split it up into Atlantic Canada, Quebec, Ontario, Prairies, British Columbia, and Territories. That's only six sub-forums.
And don't forget ROW.
Ruyan.
If by ROW, you mean Rest of World. Yeah, I agree it's a pretty slippery slope.
Against: There's no reason one country should be given special treatment over any other. And America isn't the only country that is divided into non-federal regions. The Canada request was done slightly tongue-in-cheek for this reason (though I'd totally be fine if they went through with it).
For: However, there is something to be said regarding the sheer size (land area, not population) of America and Canada. The entire United Kingdom fits inside Atlantic Canada alone, and that's our smallest region. When my girlfriend and I drive to visit her family in a separate province, it's a 3.5 hour drive and we don't even consider that to be a big deal. An eleven hour drive to Montreal for me and my friends is a day-drive and, sometimes, that's just to go for a long weekend.
I'm good either way. And I can see the reasoning on both sides. Really, it comes down to how complicated it is for the website team. They are an American company so if they want to provide something a little extra for their homeland customers I'll accept that.
Edit: Plus, if they were to do it the smart cut-off would be just America. If they tried to justify inclusion by land mass you'd have to include Australia as well. Also, probably Russia and China though I'm not sure how many of their customers are located there so it might not be enough to qualify.
YES! SUPPORT!!
Against: There's no reason one country should be given special treatment over any other. And America isn't the only country that is divided into non-federal regions.
I know you provided other counterpoints, but, I do see this pop up a lot - a lot of people seemed peeved at a US-bias.
Besides the obvious "Paizo is a US company" (which you did comment on), while Paizo doesn't post sales figures, I'd put down hard cash that the vast majority of Paizo's business is US in origin.
I'd also bet that the majority of their web traffic is US in origin.
There's a couple big reasons why one country should be given "special treatment" over others.
Perhaps, a sub thread of just international then. I would do it but continent then.
I do see some post out of the states, but still 95% of them are from the US.
Against: There's no reason one country should be given special treatment over any other. And America isn't the only country that is divided into non-federal regions.I know you provided other counterpoints, but, I do see this pop up a lot - a lot of people seemed peeved at a US-bias.
Besides the obvious "Paizo is a US company" (which you did comment on), while Paizo doesn't post sales figures, I'd put down hard cash that the vast majority of Paizo's business is US in origin.
I'd also bet that the majority of their web traffic is US in origin.
There's a couple big reasons why one country should be given "special treatment" over others.
I agree. For sure the majority of sales are American. I would guess the density of Pathfinder gamers in Canada is about the same but since we only have one-tenth the population of the US we'd also have one-tenth the gamer population as well.
If they ever implemented this I could definitely see it just being a USA thing. And I'm fine with that.
The added benefit, were this to be implemented for a US-only states sub-forum would be a LOT less noise on the "general" forum that would, ultimately, become the "international" forum.
I think it'd be a win-win for everyone.
And, maybe, if possible, they could add even just one extra "state" for Canada. I'd say a third of North Americans (on both sides) think of us as the fifty-first state anyway. ;)
And, maybe, if possible, they could add even just one extra "state" for Canada. I'd say a third of North Americans (on both sides) think of us as the fifty-first state anyway. ;)
"one of us, one of us, one of us."
Another option would be to place a sticky at the top of the forum with guidelines on how to post on the forum, so that there is uniformity, and it is easier to search the thread.
Example:
US, AZ, Phoenix - Looking for game
Canada, BC, Vancouver - Looking for GM
This would make it much quicker to find games, especially if you could sort the forum alphabetically.
Another option would be to place a sticky at the top of the forum with guidelines on how to post on the forum, so that there is uniformity, and it is easier to search the thread.
Example:
US, AZ, Phoenix - Looking for game
Canada, BC, Vancouver - Looking for GMThis would make it much quicker to find games, especially if you could sort the forum alphabetically.
It states something like this at the top of the forum page.
Suggested thread title format
State or Nation, City - game or type of campaign.For example:
WA, Seattle - Eberron
France, Paris - D&D Minis
It does, but I don't think most people notice it, as evidenced by the majority of posts ion the forum. A sticky titled something along the lines of "read this before posting" I think would have greater effect. Just my two cents.
Another option would be to place a sticky at the top of the forum with guidelines on how to post on the forum, so that there is uniformity, and it is easier to search the thread.
Example:
US, AZ, Phoenix - Looking for game
Canada, BC, Vancouver - Looking for GMThis would make it much quicker to find games, especially if you could sort the forum alphabetically.
It states something like this at the top of the forum page.
Suggested thread title format
State or Nation, City - game or type of campaign.For example:
WA, Seattle - Eberron
France, Paris - D&D Minis
Yes but that doesn't mean that people will use the correct format. With the suggestions that we've made, the changes will FORCE the poster to use the correct forum for their location.
Why would I post in California if I live in South Carolina?
I agree that would be a better option, but how much extra work would it take, and would it further clog the forums? Personally I would like if they removed some of the older beta test forum topics and other forums that haven't seen a post since 2010 or earlier.
Why would I post in California if I live in South Carolina?
Well, I would post in NY or CT. I live in NY but about 15 miles from the CT border and we have had folks from there in local games.
-- david
Papa.DRB
Why would I post in California if I live in South Carolina?Well, I would post in NY or CT. I live in NY but about 15 miles from the CT border and we have had folks from there in local games.
-- david
Papa.DRB
Funny. I almost posted an example after I wrote that earlier. This is situational. I also live on the border of North Carolina, I am sure there are exceptions to this rule.
Vacation, Visting Family, Location in the State (near the borders), etc etc. There are always exceptions.
I disagree with this clogging the forum further. This would be a little extra work, but it would greatly organize this section.
instead of sub-forums, another option to 'enforce' the 'suggested post format' (including location upfront)
is to have the forum use it's own 'custom' post format:
instead of just thread title, there are separate fields for location which are required to fill in (internet/online/etc are valid options) and which will display in bold ahead of the thread title...
agree with goatsticks, enforcing a specific structure of location will just be problematic for some people, e.g. Kansas City between Missouri and Kansas, Portland and Vancouver between Oregon and Washington, and so on. People will specify whatever is useful and relevant for their area, and I don't see why having Eastern European areas in the same forum is any different than having West/East Coast US areas in the same forum.
I think it'd be a win-win for everyone.
I agree. This would be great was something I was just thinking about over the last month.