Shielding Mail of the Ulfen Guard
Exclusively made for the Ulfen Guard, this chainmail was charged to be forged by the best Ulfen blacksmiths known in all of Golarion. Only the Huscarls have the prestige to wearing the mail that immortalizes the look of the greatest Ulfen warrior. All of the Ulfen guard wear this armor to better protect their charge, the crown bearer of the Primogen Crown.
Aura faint transmutation; CL ?
Slot armor; Price 30300 GP; Weight 20 lbs.
This dusky grey +1 Adamantite chainmail is made magical enhanced adamantite links to create a strong yet very light armor. It has a maximum Dexterity bonus of +6, and armor check penalty -1 and an arcane spell failure of 15%. It is considered light armor and allows the wearer to use the shield spell on command (as the spell) 5 per day.
Construction Requirements
Craft Magic Arms and Armor, Feather Fall, Shield; Cost 15150 GP
Cost: 30300 GP
Armor/Shield Bonus: +6
Max Dexterity Bonus: +6
Armor Check Penalty: -4
Arcane Spell Failure: 15%
Speed: 30 ft.
Weight: 20 lbs.
Special: DR 2/---
Bonus Penalty Failure
It'd help generate comments if you went over how you arrived at that price.
- Feather Fall? Where does Feather Fall fit into making this armour?
- The material is called "adamantine" in Pathfinder.
- Chainmail is a medium armour, not a light one.
- Since the armour allows the wearer to cast Shield, that spell should be a prerequisite in its creation.
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1) So you gave it the benefits of adamantine (DR 2/- is regularly for medium armor, but it's light now, shouldn't it be DR 1?) and some super mithral (+4 max dex over regular chainmail and 4 reduction in armor check penalty, where mithral is just +2 max dex and 3 reduction in check penalty)...
2) Shield 5/Day = 1 CL x 1 Spell Level x 1800 command use x 5/5 x 1.5 on existing slotted item = 2700 gp
Shield's generally a no-no when it comes to making magic item spell effects due to mage armor and shields low cost/high benefit ratio. As currently for 5 encounters (assuming 1 min per encounter) you get in a +4 shield bonus for only 2700, something's wrong there.
3) Feather fall...does the armor have the feather fall spell effect or is that what you're using to justify the armor changes in Point 1?
Looks like you basically added medium armor adamantine to light armor celestial armor, but reduced the max dex and armor check penalty.
If you're DMing, throw whatever you want into you're game, but I think you're gonna need to provide numbers to the pricing to explain how you summed everything up. For consistency especially if your players ever try making something similar.
If you're a player hoping to make custom magic item, yeesh. Definitely explain the pricing.
1) So you gave it the benefits of adamantine (DR 2/- is regularly for medium armor, but it's light now, shouldn't it be DR 1?) and some super mithral (+4 max dex over regular chainmail and 4 reduction in armor check penalty, where mithral is just +2 max dex and 3 reduction in check penalty)...The Dr 2/- is what the normal DR would be of the adamantine chainmail, its only light armor now because of the feather fall reducing the weight of it significantly. In my opinion the magically weight reduction isn't gonna reduce the hardness of the adamantine. [b]
2) Shield 5/Day = 1 CL x 1 Spell Level x 1800 command use x 5/5 x 1.5 on existing slotted item = 2700 gp
Shield's generally a no-no when it comes to making magic item spell effects due to mage armor and shields low cost/high benefit ratio. As currently for 5 encounters (assuming 1 min per encounter) you get in a +4 shield bonus for only 2700, something's wrong there.[b]Ok so this is the part I was the most confused on and I asked around, but got different answers, so I thought I would wing it and let someone tear it apart and maybe help me build a better price for it and actually give some formula (like you did above).
3) Feather fall...does the armor have the feather fall spell effect or is that what you're using to justify the armor changes in Point 1? Feather fall was a way more me to justify the 40 lbs of chainmail to be lighter and have light armor speed. Also allowing the wearer to utilize his max dex bonus and have a less armor check penalty
Looks like you basically added medium armor adamantine to light armor celestial armor, but reduced the max dex and armor check penalty.Correct! The Celestial Armor was kinda what I based the armor on.
If you're DMing, throw whatever you want into you're game, but I think you're gonna need to provide numbers to the pricing to explain how you summed everything up. For consistency especially if your players ever try making something similar.
If you're a player hoping to make custom magic item, yeesh. Definitely explain the pricing.
"Shield's generally a no-no when it comes to making magic item spell effects due to mage armor and shields low cost/high benefit ratio." I was thinking of something of a way to boost the AC of the character and protecting against magical missiles and such. For instance what if I used a two-handed weapon and need a way to protect myself from spell casters besides a shield...
Thank you for you guyses feed back, and I hope to get some more so I can refine this item even more! Thank you and have a good day!
Since the armour allows the wearer to cast Shield, that spell should be a prerequisite in its creation.[/list]
Umm, it does already? Craft Magic Arms and Armor, Feather Fall, Shield; Cost 15150 GP