So you summon a creature and it spits in someones face. Then that creature is dismissed. Does the target have spit on his/her face or does it disapear with the creature?
Please note: I'm not talking about calling effects such as planar binding, but summoned per summon monster, summon natures ally, etc. I know the two work differently.
This thread talks about venom, but really the same should apply to any bodily fluid or part. Keep the conversation clean people.
Also if someone has a direct link that'd be great.
Looking at the Summoning section in the Magic chapter of the Core book and to the Summon Monster spell text, it doesn't mention "parts" of the creature (although I find reasonable that things like a severed limb do disappear).
The words more close to be relevant I see are maybe: "When the spell that summoned a creature ends and the creature disappears, all the spells it has cast expire." which I suppose RAI was intended to include also spell-like abilities, but dunno about Ex or Su abilities, extracted/emanated body fluids and other things.
Looking at the Summoning section in the Magic chapter of the Core book and to the Summon Monster spell text, it doesn't mention "parts" of the creature (although I find reasonable that things like a severed limb do disappear).
The words more close to be relevant I see are maybe: "When the spell that summoned a creature ends and the creature disappears, all the spells it has cast expire." which I suppose RAI was intended to include also spell-like abilities, but dunno about Ex or Su abilities, extracted/emanated body fluids and other things.
To put things in perspective the other thread is talking about milking summoned spiders for venom.
Well, either way is fine, I think, so long as it also applies to victims of the poison.
For various reasons I might decide one way or the other... having the mucus on the warlock's face disappear after his summoned demon spits at him in disgust and anger would take some of the sting out of the insult. But on the other hand, as mentioned, milking summoned creatures for poison is kind of cheesy. I think the latter far outstrips any role play benefit it might have to rule otherwise.
I say it vanishes with the creature.
EDIT: Not intending to go against the wishes of the OP and take a wrong turn or anything, but this may ruin some plots wherein outsiders are summoned for the purpose of creating some sort of devil-spawn or some such. Perhaps another question raised is "does venom injected into a summoned creature go with it when it is dismissed?"
Well, either way is fine, I think, so long as it also applies to victims of the poison.
For various reasons I might decide one way or the other... having the mucus on the warlock's face disappear after his summoned demon spits at him in disgust and anger would take some of the sting out of the insult. But on the other hand, as mentioned, milking summoned creatures for poison is kind of cheesy. I think the latter far outstrips any role play benefit it might have to rule otherwise.
I say it vanishes with the creature.
Perhaps as a roleplay tool anything left over converts to ectoplasmic goo which evaporates over a couple of rounds. That way "spit" is still gross for a minute, but poison is useless and inert.
this may ruin some plots wherein outsiders are summoned for the purpose of creating some sort of devil-spawn or some such.
Considering the duration of Summoning spells, they'd have to make their move pretty fast anyway.
this may ruin some plots wherein outsiders are summoned for the purpose of creating some sort of devil-spawn or some such.Considering the duration of Summoning spells, they'd have to make their move pretty fast anyway.
Consider summoners SLA for 1 min per level. Still not a fantastic amount of time, but enough to use as a weapon.