Out of curiosity does anyone know what walkenas alinment is? I had always assumed Let because he's a mummy and the very small amount of info I've read from heart of the jungle seemed to imply a form of mwangi first national facsism as one of his selling points.
But saw in the npc guide the sample characters for him were both neutral. So is he NE?
Would be nice to see more written up on him.
Yeah that is what I thought though forgot to check heart of the jungle. Weird the cleric of walkena in the npc guide is neutral. Shouldn't he have to be ne or ln or le then?
Though in context of the normal citizens it fits.
I've seen him called "A Living God" in a number of sources. Would this mean he's some sort of Cleric or Oracle (or have some crazy prestige class like Divine Guardian)?
The npc in the guide is listed as a clerk c of wakena. Wakena himself is apparently a child 'sun king's from one of the previous mwangi nations. My guess is he's quasi define status on the power of a nascent demon lord.
Last year we did a campaign looking for the city of gold. The GM had Mizali on the move towards kalabuto as a background thing. But really though there's a lot of story implied with walkena but very little written.
So the neutral cleric was confusing.
Well, it's possible that they may be Clerics IF Walkena has power on par with a Demon/Empyreal Lord. My guess is that he's on the list (I'm hoping short-list) to be detailed with Mythic rules for Golarion. I'm thinking Heirophant. At high enough levels, they can grant spells to worshipers.
I had gotten the impression from the small amount of literature that he did have divine power. The npc in the book is a cleric, though as I said in my OP its neutral leasing t my confusion.
Yes, to be honest it fits really. Most people in mwangi are going to be neutral and the positive aspects of wake as agenda ( nation building, sense of idenrity ) are going to draw them in as much as the negative stuff ( racism, outrage at sargava)
I'd love to see more as heart of the jungle seemed to imply at least the one outer city didn't stand much of a chance. Though in a way it would be a better story if all this wasn't pushed by a mummy child with a lot of power. And instead by a native mwangi.
But I guess well need to wait for them to cover the lower half of the continent.
I'm willing to concede that the actual intent may have been simply Oracles at the time. Fair enough.
However, with Heirophant looming on the horizon, Walkena may actually end up getting to have both Clerics and Oracles serving him. Which could be interesting.
In a place as mysterious and unexplored as Garund (we barely know anything about the southern half) I think it's alright to have one legitimate God-King walking around. It would certainly make an excellent end-game scenario for a campaign. After all, Demon Lords and Archdevils can't be the uber-villains all the time.
I feel the same way. In fact if I were to ever do something with Walkena, I think I'd change things around a bit. Instead of a super-powerful magical being who directly runs things in the city of Mzali, I'd make Walkena a shadowy figurehead that was whispered about but rarely seen. Ultimately, I'd have Walkena be little more than a barely-sentient (but still powerful!) mascot who was being utilized by his "priests" to bring the native Mwangi people together against the foreign menace. That seems like a much more compelling story to me.Though in a way it would be a better story if all this wasn't pushed by a mummy child with a lot of power. And instead by a native mwangi.
I like that idea. But for me, I actually apply a similar theory and concept to the "child-goddess" in Kaer Maga.
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Instead of a super-powerful magical being who directly runs things in the city of Mzali, I'd make Walkena a shadowy figurehead that was whispered about but rarely seen. Ultimately, I'd have Walkena be little more than a barely-sentient (but still powerful!) mascot who was being utilized by his "priests" to bring the native Mwangi people together against the foreign menace.
To go all 'Remington Steele' with it, it could be neat to have the whole thing start out as a scam. Some unscrupulous sort discovers a quaint local legend / prophecy about an entity named Walkena, that some superstitious locals believe will rise up to help them take back their lands from the unwelcome and exploitive Avistani, and arranges some fake miracles to cash in on the gullible marks.
And then, *bang,* the increased attention and devotion awakens the very real Walkena, source of the ancient mis-remembered stories, and the first sign the huckster has that things have gone sideways is finding the body of his conman friend who'se been pretending to be his fake 'Walkena' strangled to death by his own intestines and nailed to his door.
In the worst way possible, the charlatan really does 'find god,' as his lies turn out to be very true, and the real Walkena taking over the cult he's unintentionally built for him.
Let sleeping gods lay, as they say...
Let sleeping gods lay, as they say...
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I cannot believe you went there.
Well done, sir. Well done.
Greg
How long has Walkena been around? Either Razmir owes him some royalty checks on the whole Living God sort of thing or vice versa. I can see some costly legal battles in the future.
But seriously, wonder what would happen if Razmir and Walkena got together despite their geographical separation? Sort of a delegation or congress of new, incarnate gods?
Ah the "dominate monster" and "control undead" spells - how they would fly (subtly, of course).
How long has Walkena been around? Either Razmir owes him some royalty checks on the whole Living God sort of thing or vice versa. I can see some costly legal battles in the future.
But seriously, wonder what would happen if Razmir and Walkena got together despite their geographical separation? Sort of a delegation or congress of new, incarnate gods?
The thing is! Wakena's setup doesn't come across to me as some sort of scam about faking divinity. But not being a real god and having a complex scam to fake it may as well be semantics I suppose.