Say I have 14 str, power attack and cleave. Reduced Person is cast on me, so I don't qualify for power attack anymore (13 str required, with Reduce Person I have 12). Would I still be able to use the cleave feat?
prototype00
No. This would operate similar to a Fighter changing his Fighter Bonus feats.
If I took Power Attack as a Fighter Bonus Feat, and took Cleave for being Third level, and if I want to instead change the Power Attack feat into Combat Reflexes, I would then lose access to Cleave because I no longer meet the prerequisites for it.
You lose cleave until your strength is increased to the minimum. BTW this isnt even an issue of Power Attack loss. You lose Cleave in it's own right because Cleave has a Strength 13 prerequisite.
- Gauss
Ah, right, what if it was something like Crane style and dodge? If you lose access to dodge (via your dex going down) do you lose access to crane style as well? (It doesn't specifically have a dex 13 requirement)
prototype00
Prototype: Yes, if you lose Dodge then you lose the feats that follow. Thus the following chain occurs: Lose your dex, lose dodge, lose crane style.
Note: If you got dodge as a bonus monk feat then no you do not lose dodge if your dex drops.
- Gauss
If you lose access to a feat then you also lose access to all feats that require the first one as prerequisite. Note however, that with the change the ability score bonuses/penalties work in PF ability damage and penalties do not cut off access to your feats:
Diseases, poisons, spells, and other abilities can all deal damage directly to your ability scores. This damage does not actually reduce an ability, but it does apply a penalty to the skills and statistics that are based on that ability.
Some spells and abilities cause you to take an ability penalty for a limited amount of time. While in effect, these penalties function just like ability damage, but they cannot cause you to fall unconscious or die. In essence, penalties cannot decrease your ability score to less than 1.
EDIT: Ability drain does reduce actual ability score thus possibly rendering a feat inactive.
Drejk: Good catch, I was so focused on the feat section I forgot about that element. Next time though perhaps you should include page numbers so people can find it themselves in the future. :)
Edit: CRB p555 is the source of Drejk's quotes.
- Gauss
That was a deliberate change from 3.5 which I personally appreciate as making things easier when it comes to ability damage.
