| Hinarin |
In Treantmonk's Switch-Hitter Ranger guide he gives an example of gameplay at level six: "When enemies are at range, the ranger can take his normal move and fire 2 arrows, each at +7 to hit (1 attack roll, both hit or miss)". I take it he are referring to using the Manyshot feat. I am confused because this feat requires a Full Attack Action, which is a Full Round Action, which doesn't allow normal movement (as far as I -a new convert to Pathfinder- understand). So, what am I missing here? How does he get off a full attack action and move? I realize this is similar to a recent post on Manyshot, but I feel it's a different question, so I am posting separately. Thanks in advance.
| Are |
If Treantmonk's guide was written for 3.5 rather than for Pathfinder, then he would be using Manyshot correctly; back then, it was a standard action with both arrows shot at a -4 penalty.
Edit: I see that the guide was in fact written for Pathfinder. I can only assume that he thought Manyshot worked both on standard actions and on full-attack actions (perhaps it did in Beta?).
| Gauss |
Hinarin: there is also a debate on whether or not a person can use manyshot as a full-round attack and then stop and state it was a standard attack in order to use a move action (as per the rules on full attack actions).
Debate side 1: Manyshot specifically calls out that it is a full-round attack and thus you cannot state it was only a single attack action.
Debate side 2: The rules on Full-attack actions state that you can make a single attack and then choose whether or not you continue making a full attack action or not. Since Manyshot is only making one attack action (even though it is two arrows) you are allowed to stop just like the full-attack action rules state you can and then you have a move action remaining.
Note: I am on Debate side 1. I hope I represented side 2 accurately.
Debate side 2 MIGHT be where Treantmonk was coming from but I doubt it since he stated move and then shoot two arrows.
- Gauss
| Hinarin |
If Treantmonk's guide was written for 3.5 rather than for Pathfinder, then he would be using Manyshot correctly; back then, it was a standard action with both arrows shot at a -4 penalty.
Edit: I see that the guide was in fact written for Pathfinder. I can only assume that he thought Manyshot worked both on standard actions and on full-attack actions (perhaps it did in Beta?).
Could Treantmonk have possibly just messed up!?!?!! The thought of it!!!!! Lol
Thanks so far for your responses, gentlemen/Ladies. And, Gauss, I believe you did represent both well. Thanks!