Switch Hitter Attack confusion


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In Treantmonk's Switch-Hitter Ranger guide he gives an example of gameplay at level six: "When enemies are at range, the ranger can take his normal move and fire 2 arrows, each at +7 to hit (1 attack roll, both hit or miss)". I take it he are referring to using the Manyshot feat. I am confused because this feat requires a Full Attack Action, which is a Full Round Action, which doesn't allow normal movement (as far as I -a new convert to Pathfinder- understand). So, what am I missing here? How does he get off a full attack action and move? I realize this is similar to a recent post on Manyshot, but I feel it's a different question, so I am posting separately. Thanks in advance.


Perhaps he was talking about the feat Rapid Shot instead.


Azten wrote:
Perhaps he was talking about the feat Rapid Shot instead.

Except Rapid shot is also a full attack to use. And him saying "1 attack roll, both hit or miss" sounds like Many shot.


If Treantmonk's guide was written for 3.5 rather than for Pathfinder, then he would be using Manyshot correctly; back then, it was a standard action with both arrows shot at a -4 penalty.

Edit: I see that the guide was in fact written for Pathfinder. I can only assume that he thought Manyshot worked both on standard actions and on full-attack actions (perhaps it did in Beta?).


Hinarin: there is also a debate on whether or not a person can use manyshot as a full-round attack and then stop and state it was a standard attack in order to use a move action (as per the rules on full attack actions).

Debate side 1: Manyshot specifically calls out that it is a full-round attack and thus you cannot state it was only a single attack action.

Debate side 2: The rules on Full-attack actions state that you can make a single attack and then choose whether or not you continue making a full attack action or not. Since Manyshot is only making one attack action (even though it is two arrows) you are allowed to stop just like the full-attack action rules state you can and then you have a move action remaining.

Note: I am on Debate side 1. I hope I represented side 2 accurately.

Debate side 2 MIGHT be where Treantmonk was coming from but I doubt it since he stated move and then shoot two arrows.

- Gauss


Are wrote:

If Treantmonk's guide was written for 3.5 rather than for Pathfinder, then he would be using Manyshot correctly; back then, it was a standard action with both arrows shot at a -4 penalty.

Edit: I see that the guide was in fact written for Pathfinder. I can only assume that he thought Manyshot worked both on standard actions and on full-attack actions (perhaps it did in Beta?).

Could Treantmonk have possibly just messed up!?!?!! The thought of it!!!!! Lol

Thanks so far for your responses, gentlemen/Ladies. And, Gauss, I believe you did represent both well. Thanks!

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