Held charges and spell combate?

[Xyllen]

Question came up last night that I thought I knew the answer to. Anothers argument does posses some doubt on my thoughts.
Ok. Question was, a magus with invisability on them and a held shocking grasp attacks a npc, anouncing spell combate and spell strike, and uses his spell combate for vanish; does he get the shocking grasp damage with the melee hit?
Using the melee attack first then the spell.
and yes concentration check since he is no longer invisible when the spell is completed.
Arguement is does spell combate discharge the shocking grasp as soon as the round starts or when the casting of the new spell is done.
Spell combate is a fra that is counted as part of casting the spell.

[Grick]

Xyllen wrote:

a magus with invisability on them and a held shocking grasp attacks a npc, anouncing spell combate and spell strike, and uses his spell combate for vanish; does he get the shocking grasp damage with the melee hit?

If the magus is invisible, why would he cast Vanish?

At any rate, as soon as he casts any spell, his held charge dissipates.

If he is already invisible, and is holding the charge of Shocking Grasp, then he uses spell combat, and makes his regular melee attack, he has the option of using Spellstrike to deliver the spell along with his regular weapon damage. Once that's done, he can certainly choose to cast Vanish, or any other magus spell with a standard action casting time.

Xyllen wrote:

Arguement is does spell combate discharge the shocking grasp as soon as the round starts or when the casting of the new spell is done.

A held charge dissipates when you cast any spell. If you haven't cast a spell yet, it hasn't dissipated yet. When you use Spell Combat, you can choose to make your attacks first, then cast, or the other way around.

[Xyllen]

That's what I thought, thanks. FYI the invisible was cast on him by someone else and vanish was his invis trick. All so he could sneak up on a dude with reach at 180 feet away with no cover to get there. The vanish was to buy the rest of the group time to get there before he got flattened by the other person standing there.