Dwarven racial weapons proficiency.

[Gandal]

So, there is this guy playing a dwarf cleric.
The dwarven racial proficiency says Dwarves are proficient with battleaxes,heavy picks and warhammers,and treat any weapon with the word "dwarven" in its name as a martial weapon.
He wanted his cleric to have a dwarven waraxe (as the corebook names the weapon) but the cleric doesn't give the PC the martial weapon proficiency for such a weapon,and the racial trait doesn't say dwarves are automatically proficient with dwarven warxes.
It says dwarf treat dwarven warxes as martial weapons for the purpose of choosing the feats right?
So if a dwarf cleric wants to have Weapon focus (dwarven waraxe), does he have to take the martial weapon proficiency before (spending a feat slot) or does he already have it from the race?

[Starglim]

He has to get martial weapon proficiency somehow to use a dwarven waraxe without penalty or to take a feat that has proficiency with the weapon as a prerequisite.

edit: He can take Martial Weapon Proficiency (dwarven waraxe) as a feat, since it's a martial weapon for him. There is no such feat for other races. This only matters if the prospective user has a BAB of +0, as a 1st level cleric does.

He can, however, take Weapon Focus with a battleaxe, heavy pick or warhammer.

[Mergy]

Starglim wrote:

He can, however, take Weapon Focus with a battleaxe, heavy pick or warhammer.

But not at level 1.

[blackbloodtroll]

You the DM?

[SDF River]

I don't have my Core book, but aren't clerics proficent w/ martial weapons?

[Ciaran Barnes]

Nope

[blackbloodtroll]

Well, maybe the Heirloom Weapon trait can help him.

[coyote6]

Pick a god who has dwarven waraxe as a favored weapon?

[blackbloodtroll]

No such god exists.

[Fake Healer]

blackbloodtroll wrote:

No such god exists.

Agreed, just looked through them, and no domains or archetypes that grant Martial Proficiency either....Seems weird though that there isn't a dwarven god whose favored weapon is a Waraxe....maybe ask the DM if he could create a minor god of battle with some appropriate domains?

[blackbloodtroll]

Dwarven gods love hammers.

What is his god?

[Theconiel]

There is some debate over whether the "Ultimate Nerf" version of Heirloom Weapon would allow a dwarf to have a dwarven waraxe. On one hand, the trait requires a simple or martial weapon, but the dwarven waraxe is listed as an exotic weapon. On the other hand, a dwarf treats a dwarven waraxe as if it were a martial weapon.

Further, the trait gives the character proficiency with that one particular weapon only. The weapon cannot be masterwork, but he could use the Masterwork Transformation spell to make the weapon masterwork.

I would also question whether the trait would suffice as a prerequisite for the Weapon Focus feat. Is proficiency with one specific weapon enough to qualify as "proficiency with selected weapon"? I have not seen anything official either way.

[blackbloodtroll]

Well, the Bestow Weapon Proficiency spell, is on the cleric spell list.

[Gandal]

blackbloodtroll wrote:

You the DM?

Me and one of my players, rotating turns. Home made campaign and world but we are using Golarion deities.

blackbloodtroll wrote:

Dwarven gods love hammers.

What is his god?

Pharasma

[blackbloodtroll]

As incredibly nerfed Heirloom Weapon has become, I am pretty sure the DM won't mind if he uses it to have a Dwarven Waraxe.