Invisibility Sphere


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Silver Crusade

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The wording of this says that anyone in the area of effect turns invisible. I presume this means even if they happen to be opponents.

Since everyone in effect of the spell can see each other, someone in the area of effect can attempt to attack others and thus become visible.

If an someone moves out of the sphere (or the recipient moves in such a way to exclude them) they become visible.

A couple questions.

1) Can the spell be cast in such a way as to exclude unwanted characters?

2) If someone attacks and negates the invisibility for themselves, can they still see the others inside the sphere?

3) Likewise, if someone moves out of the sphere, can they still see those inside the sphere?


1-Not with just the spell text, no. Selective Spell feat can do this though.

2-No.

3-No.


Jokem wrote:

2) If someone attacks and negates the invisibility for themselves, can they still see the others inside the sphere?

3) Likewise, if someone moves out of the sphere, can they still see those inside the sphere?

It works like invisibility, which says the spell ends if you attack. That means all of the spells effects end for that character, including the ability to see others that are turned invisible by the spell.

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1-Not with just the spell text, no. Selective Spell feat can do this though.

No it can't. Selective Spell only functions with spells that have a duration of instantaneous. Invisibility sphere has a duration of 1 minute/level.


Invisibility Sphere wrote:

This spell functions like invisibility, except that this spell confers invisibility upon all creatures within 10 feet of the recipient at the time the spell is cast. The center of the effect is mobile with the recipient.

Those affected by this spell can see each other and themselves as if unaffected by the spell. Any affected creature moving out of the area becomes visible, but creatures moving into the area after the spell is cast do not become invisible. Affected creatures (other than the recipient) who attack negate the invisibility only for themselves. If the spell recipient attacks, the invisibility sphere ends.

1) No. If you cast it and enemies are in the area, they are also made invisible. Also the metamagic feat selective spell doesn't work because it only applies to spells with a duration of instantaneous.

2) Debatable based on the wording of the spell. Either a) Only the invisibility ends, or b) the effects of the spell ends. Not entirely sure, but I would say no.

3) Same as above.

Silver Crusade

CampinCarl9127 wrote:
Invisibility Sphere wrote:

This spell functions like invisibility, except that this spell confers invisibility upon all creatures within 10 feet of the recipient at the time the spell is cast. The center of the effect is mobile with the recipient.

Those affected by this spell can see each other and themselves as if unaffected by the spell. Any affected creature moving out of the area becomes visible, but creatures moving into the area after the spell is cast do not become invisible. Affected creatures (other than the recipient) who attack negate the invisibility only for themselves. If the spell recipient attacks, the invisibility sphere ends.

1) No. If you cast it and enemies are in the area, they are also made invisible. Also the metamagic feat selective spell doesn't work because it only applies to spells with a duration of instantaneous.

2) Debatable based on the wording of the spell. Either a) Only the invisibility ends, or b) the effects of the spell ends. Not entirely sure, but I would say no.

3) Same as above.

That is what I interpreted the spell to mean. It says the Invisibility ends in case 2) and 3) but does not say the other recipients vanish from sight in those cases.

It would be nice if the spell description would clarify this, maybe the Paizo Design Team will sign in.

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