Shadows, Ghost Touch Armor, and Stealth


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Hi,
I want to play a Shadowdancer in my next game and was thinking about equipping my shadow companion. In order for the shadow to be able to pick up objects I wanted to buy him "+1 ghost touch gauntlets".
I'm now wondering if it would make sense to instead buy him a "+1 ghost touch full plate" (which includes gauntlets)?

1. Is the armor considered corporeal or incorporeal when worn by the shadow?
2. Would the armor check penalty apply?
3. Would it make any sounds (regarding stealth)?
4. Would he get the whole armor bonus or just the enhancement bonus to his AC (i.e. does the first statement in the quote only count for corporeal creatures)?

srd wrote:
Ghost Touch: This armor or shield seems almost translucent. Both its enhancement bonus and its armor bonus count against the attacks of corporeal and incorporeal creatures. It can be picked up, moved, and worn by corporeal and incorporeal creatures alike. Incorporeal creatures gain the armor's or shield's enhancement bonus against both corporeal and incorporeal attacks, and they can still pass freely through solid objects.


As I read it, you can use such an armor in both corporeal and incorporeal form, so it is considered what ever you want it to be.

The ACP would be whatever a +1 ghost touch full plate would normally have, with whatever modifiers the shadow would have in addition

As this is a ghost touch armor I would say the full AC would be added as normal, even to its Touch AC

but: I wonder if you can equip a shadow companion to begin with


how much does Ghost Touch gear weigh anyways?
and which stat would be used to determine carrying capacity?


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The ghost touch property has no effect on an object's weight.

There's no rule regarding carrying capacity for creatures with no Strength score. The closest thing is that they use Dexterity for some Strength-based stats, so I'd go with that.


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Yup - hate that a creature with no STR score can suddenly pick up something because it has "ghost touch" on it. Make some "ghost touch" boulders of truly huge size and any old Ghost can lob them at will? Dumb.

A true flaw.


The bestiary shadow has a dex of 14 which woud be 58lb light load of "ghost touch" gear if Dex is used in lieu of Str.

My Gnome Shadow Dancer has a weight of 42lb and gear for 22lb which puts it to a medium load and therefore 30ft speed if I use a ghost touch buckler as a Floating Disc.
Beats walking at 20ft speed, I'll ask my DM what he thinks about it :o)
Even better with permanent reduce person in place.

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