I have a dilemma I am not sure how to work out.
In my main hand I have a longsword one-handed, in the offhand I have a heavy throwing shield.
Throwing shields can be any shield with a mod thing on it and can be thrown as a free action to damage or trip someone. After I've thrown the shield, as a free action I grip my longsword, move closer to my target, and with both hands and then attack with a standard action.
My question is, does the Longsword and Throwing Shield count as two weapon fighting, so when I throw the shield, do I get -10 to hit without two-weapon fighting feats? And after the shield is thrown, do I still get -6 to attack with the longsword like I was fighting two-weapons, even though I'm not carrying the shield anymore?
Is throwing a shield as a free action also an attack? What if I use it to trip someone instead of doing damage?
Two Weapon Fighting says: "If you wield a second weapon in your off hand, you can get one extra attack per round with that weapon." A shield doesn't grant extra attacks per round, so does it still take the same penalties a weapon would?
If anyone knows, thanks.
I don't know how you're getting an attack as a free action. I don't think that's possible. I believe the throwing shields (admittedly bad) wording just means you can get it ready to throw as a free action (rather than having to take a move action to get it off your arm)
You only suffer the offhand penalties for two weapon fighting when two weapon fighting: If you try to get the extra attack from two weapon fighting and stab someone next to you in the face with your longsword and then play captain America with the orc accross the room THEN you get the -6 -10 penalties.
throw shield with left hand as your only action= No TWF penalties.
+ 5 bab : Stab Sword/throw shield= -6/-10
+6 bab: Stab with sword throw shield with the +1 attack= No TWF penalties
Throw shield, stab with sword as an attack of opportunity= No TWF penalties.
It would kind of help to know what is giving you the free action attack.
Throwing the Throwing Shield is a free action:
"Benefit: You can throw the shield as a free action." from the d20pfsrd on the throwing shield modification for shields, and on the page for the weapon Shield, Throwing.
"This shield is designed for throwing and has specially designed straps allowing you to unclasp and throw it as a free action. "
I'm not using two weapon fighting is the thing, but I can't figure out if throwing the shield counts as an attack or something else or not that it would incur penalties.
I want what you think to be right though, that it doesn't take the penalty.
The free attack does not count against your BAB IMO, so you should not have to take the TWF penalties.
I don't know how you're getting an attack as a free action. I don't think that's possible. I believe the throwing shields (admittedly bad) wording just means you can get it ready to throw as a free action (rather than having to take a move action to get it off your arm)
From the two of them:
Shield, Throwing: "Benefit: You can throw the shield as a free action. Neither a shield’s enhancement bonus to AC nor its shield spikes apply to your attack or damage rolls."
Throwing Shield: "Benefit: This shield is designed for throwing and has specially designed straps allowing you to unclasp and throw it as a free action. Tower shields cannot be throwing shields. Neither a shield’s enhancement bonus to AC nor its shield spikes apply on your attack or damage rolls."
It does seem weird but they both say "throw it as a free action." "throw the shield as a free action." If they wanted throwing it to be a standard action, wouldn't it say standard not free?
It does seem weird but they both say "throw it as a free action." "throw the shield as a free action." If they wanted throwing it to be a standard action, wouldn't it say standard not free?
Standard action would mean you couldn't use it for iterative attacks.
As it stands, it would effectively be a hasted weapon for a cost less than a masterwork dagger, not to mention the ability to machine gun them if you carry 50 of them on you and throw them all as a free action.