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Similarly, you cannot mix PP and gold to pay for something. For example, you can get raise dead cast on your post-Baird body for ~5k gold or 16PP, but you couldn't pay ~2500gp and 8PP for the same effect.
This is something I'd like to see changed.
A lot of PP goes unused I think at most a player could generate 22-30,000 gp from spending all of their prestige. This amount should not break the game.
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In that case, there is no reason to buy an item using your faction.
All mundane items are always available, so you can buy them without any worry about fame.
Magic items in chronicles are also always available and you can buy them at any time.
If you can`t acquire an item for 0 gp via PP, why are you going to wait?
Someone can show me an item useful enough to compensate wait for it 10, 15 or 20 modules? I don`t think so.
It has no sense.
You can acquire an item for 0gp by spending PP. You can spend 1PP to acquire any one item worth 150gp or less. You can spend 2PP to acquire any one item worth 750gp or less. (It's actually a fairly common practice for a PC's first 2 PP to get them a wand of cure light wounds.)
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In that case, there is no reason to buy an item using your faction.
At higher levels almost all of my purchases are based on my Fame score. Items on chronicle sheets are rarely useful (unless they're partially charged wands or higher CL wands, scrolls, etc), because by that point you almost always have a Fame score high enough to buy the (as an example) +2 Cloak of Resistance anyway. However, how often does a +1 Agile wakizashi appear on a chronicle? And yet my ninja wants one, so he saves up his coppers and golds until his Fame is high enough to convince Grandmaster Torch to help him acquire one.
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In that case, there is no reason to buy an item using your faction.
All mundane items are always available, so you can buy them without any worry about fame.
Magic items in chronicles are also always available and you can buy them at any time.
If you can`t acquire an item for 0 gp via PP, why are you going to wait?
Someone can show me an item useful enough to compensate wait for it 10, 15 or 20 modules? I don`t think so.
It has no sense.
Your confusion may be in the GP cap that the Fame level allows you to purchase under. As you earn PP you have the ability to buy any PFS legal item even if it is not on the always available list or on one of your chronicles as long as it is at or below the GP limit set by your Fame. Your faction is the only way to purchase items outside of those on your chronicles or the always available list.
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You cannot buy multiple combined items up to 750gp,
But you can buy a scroll with multiple copies of a single spell; you just can't mix and match them. For example, a scroll with five copies of lesser restoration. link
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Ok, you are right. Faction serves to acquire “rare” items, ones that usually don´t appear in chronicles.
But, it sounds odd that Grandmaster Torch is eager to pay 5000 gp material component of a True Restoration Spell but not 2000 gp for a Dagger +1
Not quite sure I understand. Diamonds, the material component for both Raise Dead and Restoration of various types, would fall under the Always Available section of the item access, just the same as a Dagger +1 is on the Always Available list.
Or do you mean that in one scenario Grandmaster Torch actually gives the PCs 5,000 gp worth of diamond dust for free?
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Just want to make sure if this is legal:
Can I use my 2pp to buy a Darkwood composite longbow (strength rating +3)
worth 730gp.
and later on pay gold to upgrade it to +1, +2 etc.
that would be using both PP and gold , but the gold would only be spent later on.
edit: and also i assume I would never be able to sell this item, is that correct?
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Well, I hardly look at my chronicles again after I make my purchases, except to look up boons I might want to use (and I have a separate list to track those... Lots of little ones to miss). Once I purchase an item, and add it to my character it's on my gear. I don't list the value of every item on my sheet, or if I use HeroLab it just assigns it a value (which is again, not transferred to a sheet).
I should have ended my previous post with a YMMV as well. Just saying FOR ME it would be something else to track.
Different topic but, if you bought the bow with PP, then money to upgrade it... why are you selling it down the road? :P
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Just want to make sure if this is legal:
Can I use my 2pp to buy a Darkwood composite longbow (strength rating +3)
worth 730gp.
and later on pay gold to upgrade it to +1, +2 etc.that would be using both PP and gold , but the gold would only be spent later on.
edit: and also i assume I would never be able to sell this item, is that correct?
First part is correct.
second... not so much. As I understand it, you would have a (+1 magical) Darkwood composite longbow (strength rating +3) that has a value of 2000gp (not 2730gp). and so you COULD sell it... getting 1/2 of the value (that would be 1000gp, NOT 1365gp). At least, that's the way I understand it.
Nosig, you might want to reread the footnote for the 1 & 2 PP purchases:
3 Once per session, you can acquire any single item of this cost or less from your faction by spending the appropriate PP. Items purchased this way are worth 0 gp and cannot be sold.
The bolding is mine, but, unless that changes in a future Guide, you would never be able to sell off that composite longbow or dragonhide breastplate, no matter how much you have enchanted them.
Note: My highest level PC has exactly that longbow that Grumpus was asking about, purchased with 2 PP back in the first module I played him in after converting him from 3.5E to PFRPG, and I have also sunk an additional 8K gp into it, making it +1 & Seeking, but I would think that the "cannot be sold" proviso applies to the item in full, no matter that the 750 gp from the PP is an almost insignificant portion of the "true" value of the item at a later time.