'Magic Baby' magic children for childless couples


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Besides adoption of course, just how powerful would the magic be to allow two people to conceive a 'magic baby' that shares aspects of each parent? This would allow barren, same-sex, incompatible races to have a family. Details would very of course, from magic floating incubation orbs to carrying normally.


Polymorph and shape change seem to do the trick for dragons, on the evidence of the Half dragon template... I've argued that alter self in some editions could permit this. There' also the book of erotic fantasy might have something too.


1) Regenerate cast on the "injured" party would fix the issue entirely and allow them to conceive and all that jazz.

Otherwise- A spell that allowed you to create a baby from two willing opposite gendered creatures of the same or compatible species with one parent (presumably the female, but could vary by species) taking on the job of hosting the little parasite.. I probably wouldn't make it too terribly high level.. maybe second? third?

Now making one that'd have the little parasite outside the body in some sort of womb-bubble would be both odd, scary, and higher level- primarily just to keep from having to deal with it in game. ;p Not sure I'd want to deal with the in-game ramifications of little floating babies bouncing behind their moms in-vetro in small bubbles tethered to their side or something.

-S


Haha. That was indeed a funny post. :)

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I'd call it a 5th-level spell, playing off of magic jar. You steal a tiny portion of each parent's essence, put it in a specially treated orb/jar/uterus/etc. and allow it to incubate. I'd even call it a Necromancy spell, since you're very much playing with life energy, but it would be "white" Necromancy since it causes life to flourish rather than wither.


Imo i wouldn't make it that high for two reason:

1) you aren't stealing- you are taking something from a willing person.
2) Magic Jar is as high as it is because of the abusability of stealing someone's body. I cant' really see *any* abuse out of the proposed spell, assuming that it carries with it the general limitations on child birth. (same incubation times, recovery afterwards, and all that jazz).

That is, of course, assuming that the magic just gets the initial "job" done while letting the parasite carrier do the rest. A spell to do *all* of it I'd agree 5th of not 6th level.. maybe even put it on the same range as Regenerate since you are asking a spell to create a life and grow/sustain it for the duration of the incubation.. Higher level still if you want it to speed the process and/or get to pick the resulting physical traits. (gender, tall/short and such genes that a character usually gets to choose for themselves)

-S


minor wish to get a fetus into a woman, or wish to get a newborn perhaps.
Or Polymorph would work if it lasts longer than 9 months.

But results may not always be as expected, there will probably be some sorcerers, and some abberations. Perhaps even that's the way Aasimars and tieflings are born, when some angelic force or some demon grants the wish.


Well it would clearly be within the range of Miracle, especially of life cycle and reproduction deities.

I'd rule it as something Limited Wish can do, mainly because it has zero real effect mechanically unless you combine it with planes with differing time rate (which are cheesy on their own)


Given that as a general proposition the realm of healing and bringing life into and back to the world is divine, that this most likely would fall into that too. And in fact could very much see this tied to the world's deity(ies) of fertility and/or healing..

though I suppose both could also be fixed with a new spell solely for the purpose of fixing that particular issue
"By the blessing of Besmara ye are healed! Now to get to baby making!" or some such ;p (ok besmara is a bad example but she's the only deity who would come to mind)

I guess limited wish could cover it under the realm of "any effect of level X or lower" but I think the base spell would definately be divine.. though I wouldn't pitch a fit about it either way.
its such a niche, specific spell that it wouldn't really be a bother regardless.

-S


I figure a divine spell called "Immaculate Conception" could allow such a thing to occur. Let's make it a level 4 cleric/oracle spell and a 5th level druid spell.


Variations on simulacrum and clone spells could be researched for those purposes.

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Andrea1 wrote:
Besides adoption of course, just how powerful would the magic be to allow two people to conceive a 'magic baby' that shares aspects of each parent? This would allow barren, same-sex, incompatible races to have a family. Details would very of course, from magic floating incubation orbs to carrying normally.

This goes straight to the realm of GM Fiat.


Andrea1 wrote:
Besides adoption of course, just how powerful would the magic be to allow two people to conceive a 'magic baby' that shares aspects of each parent? This would allow barren, same-sex, incompatible races to have a family. Details would very of course, from magic floating incubation orbs to carrying normally.

I would think it should depend on why the couple cannot concieve. In most case, I'd go for carrying the child normally. If it is a physical problem they were born with, I'd use a Restoration-type spell. If it is due to incompatible race, transfiguration to make one (probably the male) into the compatible race for a bit. If it is due to homosexuality, I'd go with a magic floating incubation orb and would have to think more on how I would handle such a thing.

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It really depends on the nature of your campaign.

Does magic solve everything? or does it have essential limits. (one of the main defining features of Ars Magica's Mythic Europe)

Do the campaign's extremes run to the gritty or the silly?


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Kelsey MacAilbert wrote:
If it is due to homosexuality, I'd go with a magic floating incubation orb and would have to think more on how I would handle such a thing.

The easiest answer to that is the Girdle of Opposite Gender. They can change back after gestation with a Remove Curse. If they don't want anyone to know they changed, even if just temporarily, they can use a Hat of Disguise to hide the transformation.


I have a tech version of this that resmbles a high tech stainless steel laundromat. Lots of cubes with circular windows stacked on each other with various genetic material incubating for the proper amount of time.

Edit: I mean I had an idea for a tech version. It'll be more like cloning, but with mixture of genes. Once we advance the technology a bit this isn't that far fetched of an idea IRL.


Eric Jarman wrote:
Kelsey MacAilbert wrote:
If it is due to homosexuality, I'd go with a magic floating incubation orb and would have to think more on how I would handle such a thing.
The easiest answer to that is the Girdle of Opposite Gender. They can change back after gestation with a Remove Curse. If they don't want anyone to know they changed, even if just temporarily, they can use a Hat of Disguise to hide the transformation.

I guess you could do that if you wanted. Not really sure I'd want to use a curse in a beneficial manner, though. Also not sure if a gay man wants to be a woman, even for 9 months.

Perhaps a version of the Girdle could exist that isn't a curse?


Kelsey MacAilbert wrote:
Eric Jarman wrote:
Kelsey MacAilbert wrote:
If it is due to homosexuality, I'd go with a magic floating incubation orb and would have to think more on how I would handle such a thing.
The easiest answer to that is the Girdle of Opposite Gender. They can change back after gestation with a Remove Curse. If they don't want anyone to know they changed, even if just temporarily, they can use a Hat of Disguise to hide the transformation.

I guess you could do that if you wanted. Not really sure I'd want to use a curse in a beneficial manner, though. Also not sure if a gay man wants to be a woman, even for 9 months.

Perhaps a version of the Girdle could exist that isn't a curse?

With absolutely no offense intended, as a gay man I would decline the opportunity to be a pregnant woman. Miracle of life and all that. It's just not my bag, baby.


Thanks for the answers to my crazy question. :)


I take it you don't like babies/children Selgard?


eh? I love 'em.

I love the idea of trying to fix this problem in the game world without having to go through the high expense of regeneration.

But the idea of having a little incubating baby in a floating bubble attached to a cord as we go a merry-ing along?
Not so much.

-S

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