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So in order to remedy this problem would a Circlet of Persuasion help my Sorcerer on his concentration checks? If so that is better than a trait and almost as good (I think better because it applies to all concentration checks) as the Combat Casting feat.
A 4500 gp magic item should be better than a trait.
Anyway, it looks like it'd work, and it'd stack with most feats and traits since the bonus type is different.
Pricing-wise, most straight bonuses are (bonus squared)*(some constant), which would come out to (bonus squared)*500 gp here. (Of course, you have to convince your GM of that.)
Edit: By the pricing, it feels like it should have said Charisma-based skill checks, but it doesn't, so without a dev saying otherwise, I don't see anything wrong with it.
The intent is clearly for it to only work on skill checks. We can see this from the pricing model and because it it called the circlet of "Persuasion".
It clearly states ALL charisma-based checks, on which Contentration is one (for Charisma-based casters anyways).
It's a tradition thing. The Circlet of Persuasion hasn't changed since 3.5 and concentration used to be constitution-based.
While I don't think concentration checks were intended, I would not say it was only for skill checks.
I don't think it is against RAI either though. It is taking up your head slot, and if you had the headband that boost charisma it would affect your spells, and all cha based checks.
Interesting: Both a Headband of Charisma and a Circlet of Persuasion can be used together since Paizo split up Head and Headband slots. There's a point in the favor of charisma based casters. Someone should refer this information over to the Sorcerer vs Wizard discussion. *chuckles*
- Gauss
I keep forgetting that. I am so used to both(headband and head) of them being together.
I thought you might have Wraithstrike, I just tried to be more diplomatic about telling you (by not directly telling you) since your phrasing implied they took the same slot but did not directly state it. :)
- Gauss
Strangely I just reminded someone of the same thing, not to long ago.
Gotta love those moments when we forget things like that. I pride myself on knowing the game system and yet sometimes I forget basic things. Talk about embarrassing.
- Gauss
For an orcale with the revelation that lets you use cha instead of dex for reflex saves those saves are cha based checks. So why shouldn't a concentration check for someone who uses cha as caster attribute be a cha based check?
I don't think it was intended, but I don't really see a problem there either. the fact it increase in price by 50% if you have a decent headband balances it somewhat.
Ooooooh... Headband AND Circlet? My Paladin King (kingmaker) will be so happy to hear about this...
Be careful. Some things that might seem charisma based are in fact not charisma based. Example: Paladin's Divine Grace. It is equal to the charisma bonus but the charisma bonus itself is not used. Thus it is removed by one step. A number of abilities are worded this way.
- Gauss
Just happy as my GM allows the Circlet to buff my kingdom rolls. A headband will increase Economy even more :)
And they ARE different types of bonus so they would stack Competence for Circlet and Enhancement bonus for Headband.
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