| gourry187 |
I've read, re-read and read again the special materials section and I'm having trouble pricing arrows constructed with special materials.
Adamantine
score of arrows (20) = 1 gp
admantine cost = +60 per arrow
1+(60x20) = 1,201 gp for 20 adamantine arrows
cold iron (twice as much as normal not including masterwork cost)
20 arrows = 2 gp
masterwork = 6x20 = 120
2 + (6x20)= 122 gp for 20 cold iron arrows
silver
20 arrows = 1 gp
MW = 6x20 =120 gp
silver = +2 per arrow
1 + (6x20) + (2x20) = 161 gp
does that look right? I'm not sure if cold iron and silver arrows must be masterwork or not.
| Gilfalas |
I belive that when making/pricing arrows your supposed to use 50 arrows per batch, that includes when crafting magic arrows or making batches with special materials.
I do not, sadly, remember where I read this though, perhaps in the Crafting skill?
Correction: The 50 per lot for ammunition comes from a footnote in the magic weapon effect tables. When crafting MAGICAL ammunition you create 50 per batch.
Crafting the mundane/masterwork versions are done as 20 per batch as listed in the equipment tables.
Also, to the best of my knowledge, all items constructed of special materials are considered masterwork and I think that masterwork cost is already included in the material cost. Check the special materials section for that.
| gourry187 |
as a note, I'm not so much looking for the crafting cost as much as I am for market price.
I know it says that adamantine are masterwork (and that the additional cost includes MW costs as written in the adamatine text) but I can't find where it states items of special materials materials need to be MW.
| Gilfalas |
as a note, I'm not so much looking for the crafting cost as much as I am for market price.
Crafting cost of non mundane items is 1/3 the market price so you pretty much HAVE to figure market price first and then crafting cost from there.
To determine how much time and money it takes to make an item, follow these steps.
1.Find the item's price in silver pieces (1 gp = 10 sp).
2.Find the item's DC from Table: Craft Skills.
3.Pay 1/3 of the item's price for the raw material cost.
4.Make an appropriate Craft check representing one week's worth of work. If the check succeeds, multiply your check result by the DC. If the result × the DC equals the price of the item in sp, then you have completed the item. (If the result × the DC equals double or triple the price of the item in silver pieces, then you've completed the task in one-half or one-third of the time. Other multiples of the DC reduce the time in the same manner.) If the result × the DC doesn't equal the price, then it represents the progress you've made this week. Record the result and make a new Craft check for the next week. Each week, you make more progress until your total reaches the price of the item in silver pieces.
If you fail a check by 4 or less, you make no progress this week. If you fail by 5 or more, you ruin half the raw materials and have to pay half the original raw material cost again.
I know it says that adamantine are masterwork (and that the additional cost includes MW costs as written in the adamatine text) but I can't find where it states items of special materials need to be MW.
It should list it in the description for each special material.
kinevon
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No need to make silver or cold iron arrows masterwork unless you want to enchant them. Unless you are going for Bane arrows or something similar, it isn't worth it, at 8301 gp for 50 +1 X arrows, more if you use special materials.
You can buy plain vanilla special material arrows in a lot of only 20, you only need to buy a batch of 50 if you are going to enchant the arrows.
20 arrows: 1 gp
20 blunt arrows: 2 gp
20 cold iron arrows: 2 gp
20 cold iron blunt arrows: 4 gp
20 silvered arrows: 41 gp (remember the -1 on damage)
20 silvered blunt arrows: 42 gp (no penalty to damage)
20 adamantine arrows: 1201 gp (automatically masterwork)
20 adamantine blunt arrows: 1202 gp (automatically masterwork)
Things you might want to look up:
Weapon blanching
one dose of weapon blanch will treat a single melee weapon for one hit, or 10 pieces of ammunition for one attack each
Types of weapon blanching:
silvered
cold iron
adamantine
ghost salt
Other than the cold iron, weapon blanching is a less expensive alternative, although the adamantine blanching does NOT ignore hardness, unlike actual adamantine arrows.
However, you can blanch a special material arrow with a different material, which would be a way to reduce the problems of figuring out certain "standard" types of DR. cold iron arrows blanched silver would overcome both DRx/cold iron and DRx/silver, which would work against most fey, lycanthropes and demons.
Overall, during a discussion on weapon blanching, it was the majority opinion that you can blanch a batch of arrows, and not worry about having to reblanch them, that the blanch lasts until the arrows are actually used. IIRC, there was also a majority opinion that Abundant Ammunition works with blanched arrows, as well.