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Let's say my Druid can wild shape using Elemental Body III. With Air elemental as the example,he's huge (15'), enjoys a 120 fly speed, and gets DR/5; all benefits that Elemental Body I and II don't give. Now supposing my Druid likes to be a small sized elemental or even has to be to fit in a small space- does that I mean I revert to getting only the advantages of that Elemental Body form?
I hope the question is clear enough. Feel free to ask for clarification.
| Michael Loy |
Weird.
It looks like if you, say, cast EBIV, you can assume any size from Small to Huge, and you'll be immune to bleed, crits, and sneak attacks. You'll also gain DR 5/–.
It also notes, "The abilities you gain depend upon the type of elemental into which you change."
Which is vague. It could be read that, okay, now I look below that text and use the stat modifiers listed in EBIV, regardless of size. After all, there really is nothing saying that size affects which stat line you use.
I think that might be wrong, though, since some of the stat modifiers are explicitly size modifiers, so it's probably intended that you match size to spell ... if you assume a Medium form with EBIV, you take the EBII stats (though you still definitely get immunities and DR).
That's a sketchy assumption, though, since the size modifiers are weird. +6 size modifier to Dex for being Huge? Eh? That's pretty non-standard. Might make more sense as racial modifiers.
I'd be interested to hear something official too! I'm also playing a druid, and I hadn't noticed how poorly phrased this bit is.
| Remco Sommeling |
Weird.
It looks like if you, say, cast EBIV, you can assume any size from Small to Huge, and you'll be immune to bleed, crits, and sneak attacks. You'll also gain DR 5/–.
It also notes, "The abilities you gain depend upon the type of elemental into which you change."
Which is vague. It could be read that, okay, now I look below that text and use the stat modifiers listed in EBIV, regardless of size. After all, there really is nothing saying that size affects which stat line you use.
I think that might be wrong, though, since some of the stat modifiers are explicitly size modifiers, so it's probably intended that you match size to spell ... if you assume a Medium form with EBIV, you take the EBII stats (though you still definitely get immunities and DR).
That's a sketchy assumption, though, since the size modifiers are weird. +6 size modifier to Dex for being Huge? Eh? That's pretty non-standard. Might make more sense as racial modifiers.
I'd be interested to hear something official too! I'm also playing a druid, and I hadn't noticed how poorly phrased this bit is.
Size modifiers are just poorly named, they are modifiers with regard to shapechanging magics, usually polymorph but also spells like enlarge or reduce person.
| EpicFail |
"The abilities you gain depend upon the type of elemental into which you change."
In the interests of clarity, 'type' refers (at least) of course to say a Water Elemental as opposed to an Earth elemental. So now we're trying to figure out the importance of size, say small as opposed to huge.