Learning Druidic


Rules Questions


Okay, so here is the story, in my campaign there is a very powerful Lich and he is basically the bad guy throughout the entire thing. I want to make him know Druid but no Druid would teach him. Could using a dominate person spell on the Druid to force it to teach him work? He doesn't care about the consequences and only wishes to increase his power. I have looked at the spell and it at looks good. I want to get feedback from all of you first though. Thanks everyone :D


Have them write a Common to Druidic translation book for the "new converts to Druidism".


Thanks. I thought I found a loophole in the Druid's language.


The simplest way would just be to make him an ex-druid. Give him 1 level of druid, and he'll know druidic. You can make your NPC whatever level you want, and just tacking on a druid level won't substantially increase his power since he'll have lost most class abilities from it so all he'll get is a bit of a bump to HP, fort, and will. Since he's an undead lich he's immune to most fort things anyway, and will have a very high will save regardless.

The dominate route could work, of course, but as a player I would find it hard to swallow in terms of immersion for a couple of reasons. Druids have good will saves, but more importantly, teaching druidic to an undead monster almost certainly counts as "against their nature" for any druid, granting him a new save (with a +2 bonus) each time the bad guy tries to make him teach him something. Since you cannot learn a language in one sitting, that gives the druid potentially many chances to get a high roll and break free. It would seem more realistic to me if the lich just tortured a druid the old-fashioned way to learn the secrets of druidic.

Grand Lodge

Would a Blight Druid lose their druid powers by teaching a non-druid the druidic language?


I think dominate, as well as forcing the druid to comply, both could work. Of course a druid isn't immune to mind control or physical pain.

Basically, you can do it any way you like. What makes a great story? What fits the villian, he is?

Danny Kessler wrote:
The simplest way would just be to make him an ex-druid. Give him 1 level of druid, and he'll know druidic.

If we are going straight by the rules, an ex-druid doesn't know the language. The language, being a druid ability, is lost when he teaches the language to someone else. Absurd, easily ignored, but the rules as written...

@BBT: Bashing on RAW a bit, according to the rules, many blight druids actually have difficulty keeping their powers in the first place.
The archetype doesn't change the following: "A druid who ceases to revere nature ... loses all spells and druid abilities".


Blights are a part of nature.


Just put a rank in linguistics, nothing in there says you can't take secret languages. druids don't lose it for becoming ex druids it seems either.


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Learn a Language: Whenever you put a rank into this skill, you learn to speak and read a new language. Common languages (and their typical speakers) include the following.

Abyssal (demons and other chaotic evil outsiders)
Aklo (derros, inhuman or otherworldly monsters, evil fey)
Aquan (aquatic creatures, water-based creatures)
Auran (flying creatures, air-based creatures)
Celestial (angels and other good outsiders)
Common (humans and the core races from Races)
Draconic (dragons, reptilian humanoids)
Druidic (druids only)
Dwarven (dwarves)
Elven (elves, half-elves)
Giant (cyclopses, ettins, giants, ogres, trolls)
Gnome (gnomes)
Goblin (bugbears, goblins, hobgoblins)
Gnoll (gnolls)
Halfling (halflings)
Ignan (fire-based creatures)
Infernal (devils and other lawful evil outsiders)
Orc (orcs, half-orcs)
Sylvan (centaurs, fey creatures, plant creatures, unicorns)
Terran (earth-based creatures)
Undercommon (drow, duergar, morlocks, svirfneblin)

Druid is not on the list.


Look between Draconic and Dwarven.


Azten wrote:
Look between Draconic and Dwarven.

Darn you Azten. :)

It does say druid only though. :)

edit:I don't know why they put that there. Druid already know the language.


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magikmaan wrote:
Okay, so here is the story, in my campaign there is a very powerful Lich and he is basically the bad guy throughout the entire thing. I want to make him know Druid but no Druid would teach him. Could using a dominate person spell on the Druid to force it to teach him work? He doesn't care about the consequences and only wishes to increase his power. I have looked at the spell and it at looks good. I want to get feedback from all of you first though. Thanks everyone :D

Create a simulacrum of a druid. Have the simulacrum teach you.


Ashiel wrote:
magikmaan wrote:
Okay, so here is the story, in my campaign there is a very powerful Lich and he is basically the bad guy throughout the entire thing. I want to make him know Druid but no Druid would teach him. Could using a dominate person spell on the Druid to force it to teach him work? He doesn't care about the consequences and only wishes to increase his power. I have looked at the spell and it at looks good. I want to get feedback from all of you first though. Thanks everyone :D
Create a simulacrum of a druid. Have the simulacrum teach you.

I am starting to think I am going to have to go over this spell and rewrite it one day.

With that aside you can create one, and have it craft magic items.

You could actually create a couple of them.


wraithstrike wrote:
Ashiel wrote:
magikmaan wrote:
Okay, so here is the story, in my campaign there is a very powerful Lich and he is basically the bad guy throughout the entire thing. I want to make him know Druid but no Druid would teach him. Could using a dominate person spell on the Druid to force it to teach him work? He doesn't care about the consequences and only wishes to increase his power. I have looked at the spell and it at looks good. I want to get feedback from all of you first though. Thanks everyone :D
Create a simulacrum of a druid. Have the simulacrum teach you.

I am starting to think I am going to have to go over this spell and rewrite it one day.

With that aside you can create one, and have it craft magic items.

You could actually create a couple of them.

Gonna see if I can do something with the info here. Thanks, guys.

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