I'm just thinking that things are a little nuts, is all:
+10 BASE
+12 CHARISMA BONUS
+2 FEY BLOODLINE SORCEROR
+1 SPELL FOCUS (ENCHANTMENT)
+1 IMPROVED SPELL FOCUS (ENCHANTMENT)
+5 KITSUNE FAVOURED CLASS BONUS
+2 SPELL PERFECTION
+9 SPELL LEVEL
+1 KITSUNE RACIAL ABILITY
I haven't checked to see if it's possible within feat limitations, but one could also use eldritch heritage to get school power from the arcane bloodline for a further +2 to DCs.
I know that having spell perfection on a level 9 spell is sub-optimal, but even if it were for a a spell of a lower spell level the DC would be only be about 3 or 4 less.
There's probably at least one more way to boost this that I don't know about.
I know that mind-affecting and compulsion spells are not reliable due to the prevalence of mind-affecting immune creatures, but that doesn't make me feel any better.
I'm not sure this post has any point.
Edit: Corrections to modifiers and totals.
It costs four feats to get greater eldritch heritage. Skill Focus (any knowledge) -> Eldritch Heritage (familiar) -> Improved Eldritch Heritage (moar spells) -> Greater Eldritch Heritage (crazy DCs).
Is Spell Focus @+2 to DC now? My book shows +1, ditto for Greater Spell Focus...
I am fairly sure both spell focus feats are included there. Spell perfection doubles their bonuses.
Ah. Ultimate Magic? I haven't run into it (trying to stick with CRB and bits of APG).
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A +12 Charisma bonus? That's a 34 Charisma by level 9. I don't think that is possible with the normal wealth rules.
I am fairly sure both spell focus feats are included there. Spell perfection doubles their bonuses.
That explains the +2 for Spell Focus and Improved Spell Focus. But what's the +4 for Spell Perfection from?
A +12 Charisma bonus? That's a 34 Charisma by level 9. I don't think that is possible with the normal wealth rules.
It's a level 9 spell, not a level 9 character. I was also confused at first.
I am fairly sure both spell focus feats are included there. Spell perfection doubles their bonuses.That explains the +2 for Spell Focus and Improved Spell Focus. But what's the +4 for Spell Perfection from?
A +12 Charisma bonus? That's a 34 Charisma by level 9. I don't think that is possible with the normal wealth rules.It's a level 9 spell, not a level 9 character. I was also confused at first.
Fair point.
He listed an extra +4 for "Spell Perfection." So it is a accidental doubling.
This drops it to "only" DC 43. Which still means a Balor has about a 15% chance of succeeding against it. I foresee Kitsune Enchantment Sorcerers becoming a very popular option.
Err, yeah, I was working with the spell focus feats from memory and counted them as +2 because I was confusing the numbers with spell penetration numbers.
That actually brings it down quite a bit, but it's still pretty crazy.
It seems I made some arithmetic errors as well. For shame.
One thing I was wondering is:
Spell perfection doubles feat derived bonuses for the spell it applies to.
Eldritch heritage is a feat that gives a class feature.
Would the bonus from eldritch heritage:school power get doubled by spell perfection?
Maybe I'm not following anything, but I don't see anything in Eldritch Heritage that allows you to increase spell DCs.
Look up the effects of picking the arcane bloodline's 15th level power for greater eldritch heritage.
One thing I was wondering is:
Spell perfection doubles feat derived bonuses for the spell it applies to.
Eldritch heritage is a feat that gives a class feature.
Would the bonus from eldritch heritage:school power get doubled by spell perfection?
No, the feat gives you the ability. When you have the ability, it gives the bonus, you can't back-track it like that.
I've only scanned the list, but you could take the arcane bloodline power for another +2, though it will cost another 2 feats and only gain access at 17th level.
The only problem with this concept (aside from suffering SoD) is that Spell Perfection only affects a single spell, so all others would be at an additional disadvantage. Also, I haven't added up the feats, but I'm fairly certain with this build you've blown them all, meaning you have no diversity at all.
You will get the Balor, with a single spell a majority of the time, but you'd have to Spell Perfection a level 9 spell, so you'll be waiting quite some time for this. For the most part, you'll simply suffer well behind all other builds and at 17th level, only slightly less so.
But it is a good exercise to see what is possible. Thanks.
I would reccomend a lower level spell, then just get heighten spell.
You keep the 9th-level DC, meet one of the many Spell Perfection prerequisites, and have a lot more versatility as far as metmagic is concerned (such as being able to quicken it, make it bouncing, persistent, or piercing, et al).
Yeah, I know that choosing spell perfection for a level 9 spell is suboptimal, but I didn't think of that work around.
How about a 1 level dip into mind chymist for cognatogen for a further ("temporary") +2 to DCs?