| JonGarrett |
My wife is going to be running the Way of the Wicked Adventure Path soon, and I decided I was going to play a Spellcaster. One who focuses heavily on mental domination spells to make people confused or control them, with a side order of summoning (he doesn't wanna have to do anything he doesn't have to). I'm simply unsure which is best.
My thoughts so far are;
Sorcerer with the Maestro Bloodline
Witch with the Enchantment Patron
Wizard with Enchantment School
And the first feat would be Spell Focus (Enchantment) but I was wondering which option was best? Is there another option? Any Feats I'm really going to want to grab?
I'm open to third party feats and classes, (I was thinking of using the Ajouga Feat from the Genius Guide to Multiclassing, among other things, to create a permanent bodyguard whose likely loyal) and such, but I simply haven't played a full spellcaster in a long time. So any advice would be awesome.
| tonyz |
Sorcerer. You want high Diplomacy and Bluff so once you charm creatures to friendly, youcaneasily persuade them to do all sorts of risky stuff for you. So you want the CHA synergy.
Bard might also work,and has a lot more skills to pulling off with.
Also see my general advice on charms.
| Mort the Cleverly Named |
I can't recommend Bouncing and/or Persistent Spell enough. Enchantments tend to be a save-or-die/suck situation, so forcing your enemy to make an extra save can be quite valuable. You will also eventually want Spell Penetration once SR gets common, since I seem to remember most Enchantment spells allowing SR.
For pure power, the Fey or Infernal bloodlines give +2 to Compulsions and Charms respectively, which is a nice boost. You can even choose to go with the one level crossblooded sorcerer dip to take both before going Witch or Wizard, but many find that to have a weird flavor, be a bit abusive, or don't want to lose he Wizard level.
If you want to really steamroll things, be a Kistune Sorcerer with the new racial favored class bonus from ARG (supposedly +1/4 to Enchantment DC, though I don't have the book yet). Combined with their natural bonus to Enchantment, and some of the above options... well, lets see someone make a save against DC 20+Level+Cha. Twice.
Oh, and for the side of summoning: Spell Focus, Augment Summoning, Superior Summoning. It is the standard array, makes summons even stronger, lets you make small hordes to harass your enemies. Might run low on feats with all this, though.
Broken Zenith
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I'm working with this guy over here on this thread. I say a few times on this thread that he is giving up viability at higher levels. One way to mitigate that would be to swap intelligence and charisma and become wizard with a one level dip in the linked sorcerer, or to simply take the serpentine bloodline instead of serpentine and infernal, thus avoiding the penalties of crossblooded.
I also second all the advice already offered.
Fromper
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I'd just go Fey bloodline sorcerer. You get +2 save DC on Compulsion subschool spells, which is about half the enchantment spells, including all of the really dominating ones. Going crossblooded or something just limits your other spells, which leaves you with no backup plan against mindless enemies or those with really good will saves that you can't enchant.
| Lyrysa Shadowhisper |
I went the enchantment school myself, but sorcerer has quite a few advantages to it (being primarily a charisma based class for one). Tonyz advice is pretty valuable. The most important thing to offer is to know when to charm, and when to simply talk.
Also find out how your DM views Charm Person. Some it'll never work, others it's a level 1 dominate spell.
| Quori |
Ditto. Human, Sorcerer, Fey and get the DM's feel on compulsions. There's been discussions on the wording between lesser and regular gaes and some believing that Charm Person is a carbon copy of Dominate Person at 1st level. I don't know why, but meh.
The two feats were already mentioned too (bounce/persist). Look at pushing your DC as much as possible, so max CHA.
If you're serious, then you need to keep the DC as high as possible, so Human is the best choice and Spell Focus/Grtr if you can. It's deep feat eating, but if you're going to go save/die then the additional 10% failure rate is huge. Grab the trait Eastern Mysteries if you can (I don't know if you're playing PFS or not). It's a 10% boost once per day as well.
| Quandary |
Kitsune sounds nice (I'm not familiar), probably Gnome is good as well, Elf is good for Wizard/Witch.
Human will be extra nice if you choose to go Spontaneous Casting (for extra Spells Known via Favored Class)
All the mentioned Bloodlines are good, Arcane is also good (although perhaps best via Eldritch Heritage).
Magician Sorceror Archetype could be interesting, Bard Spell List but you can gain other spells from other Arcane Spell Lists for more variety (e.g. Summoning) although that only kicks in at mid-level and never is alot of spells.