Snake Style and Fang


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So, just for clarification, if I choose to use an immediate action (via Snake Style) to roll my Sense Motive against an attack, I can use the Snake Fang to get an AoO on the opponent (assuming I win the roll), but I cannot gain the follow-up attack from Snake Fang, since I already used my immediate action for the round?

I find this a little odd, as it is the only style I see whose third feat is disconnected from the style. Perhaps either the SM check or the secondary attack is not actually meant to be an action? Or the secondary attack is meant to be another AoO, breaking the rules on provoking only once per action?

Of course, it could simply be a different choice of action usage, but I figured it might need an errata or faq to clarify.


Hmmm you have combat expertise. So you can take as many AoO as you have dex bonus.

Edit: Also AoO don't use up your swift/immediate action.


Havoc you on?


No, the snake fang school feats each provide a separate use for your immediate action in a round. They are not meant to stack in that way. So, with all three feats you could:

1) Use your immediate action to dodge an attack with your sense motive.
2) Use your immediate action to take a five foot step after a successful critical
3) Use your immediate action to take a second an attack after you successful hit with an AoO against an opponent who missed you in combat.

You cannot use two of those three in the same round. It may seem odd, but it is about choosing your action. The two feats do stack well just not in that way. So, when an opponent attacks you could spend the immediate to have a better chance of dodging and get your AoO or save your immediate on the chance he misses anyway and get an immediate attack after your AoO.


havoc xiii wrote:

Hmmm you have combat expertise. So you can take as many AoO as you have dex bonus.

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I think you meant combat reflexes. Not expertise. Though if he has expertise but not reflexes then he only has 1 AoO


Talonhawke wrote:
havoc xiii wrote:

Hmmm you have combat expertise. So you can take as many AoO as you have dex bonus.

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I think you meant combat reflexes. Not expertise. Though if he has expertise but not reflexes then he only has 1 AoO

Yes meant reflexes since it is a requirement of snake fang.

Ok I now know what I missed before. I thought you meant you couldn't take the AoO. Sorry my mistake.

Move along citizens nothing to see here.

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