Natural attacks


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Scarab Sages

Most creatures possess one or more natural attacks (attacks made without a weapon). These attacks fall into one of two categories, primary and secondary attacks. Primary attacks are made using the creature’s full base attack bonus and add the creature’s full Strength bonus on damage rolls.

Secondary attacks are made using the creature’s base attack bonus –5 and add only 1/2 the creature’s Strength bonus on damage rolls. If a creature has only one natural attack, it is always made using the creature’s full base attack bonus and adds 1-1/2 times the creature’s Strength bonus on damage rolls.
This increase does not apply if the creature has multiple attacks but only takes one. If a creature has only one type of attack, but has multiple attacks per round, that attack is treated as a primary attack, regardless of its type.

So since I only have claw attacks two of them do I get the 1 1/2 str dmg?

Scarab Sages

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/rules-for-monsters/universal-monster-rules #TOC-Natural-Attacks


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I don't believe so, no. There are several monsters in the Bestiaries who only have "claw attacks" and they get x1 strenth modifier to damage, not x1.5.


The only one attack refers to 1 bite, not one entry with 2 attacks listed.

Asta
PSY


No, you have more than one attack, so its strength X1 and strength x1. Even if you move and claw someone its still strength X1.

Scarab Sages

i thought it was talking about 1 type, not the number of attacks from that one type. But there are four ppl now saying the same thing so I'll except this and move on.

Thank you
Mike J.


I believe this is what confuses the issue since it's right at the end of the block.

Quote:
This increase does not apply if the creature has multiple attacks but only takes one. If a creature has only one type of attack, but has multiple attacks per round, that attack is treated as a primary attack, regardless of its type.

So it clearly states that if you have multiple attacks, you can never get the increased damage for taking a single attack.

But then grants an exception to a creature who say, only has tentacles, that those tentacles count as primary. (ie. don't suffer a -5)

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