Eidolon pounce full attack plus one?


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6 people marked this as FAQ candidate. Question unclear.

I'm pretty sure rules can't be saying what I think they're saying, but I wanted others to have a shot at it:

Charge: Charging is a special full-round action that allows you to move up to twice your speed and attack during the action. Charging, however, carries tight restrictions on how you can move.

Pounce (Ex): An eidolon gains quick reflexes, allowing it to make a full attack after a charge. This evolution is only available to eidolons of the quadruped base form.

So, a charge is an action that includes an attack, and the eidolon's pounce evolution allows a full attack after the charge (attack included) is completed. Thus, a pouncing eidolon with three attacks could attack four times in a round where it charges.

A search (surprisingly) didn't turn up anything. What am I missing? Or does this need errata?

P.S. The monster version of charge, although it offers the neat raking provision, doesn't have that feature: When a creature with this special attack makes a charge, it can make a full attack (including rake attacks if the creature also has the rake ability).


It seems like a wording error. They should just use the same wording every time, but since not every rule is written by the same person we gets things like this. SKR spoke on that(different people writing rules) recently.

edit:By "should" I mean that would make things easier for players.


The monster ability write up will be correct in these situations. For another example of this, take a look at the "Grab" monster ability. The Eidolon write up for grab uses the old version, while the monster write up uses the updated information from one of the later bestiary books.


I'd recommend FAQing it and moving on. This is most likely a mistake. In general, the Eidolon uses the rules listed in the evolution, but I can't imagine this being the intent.

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